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Message: [QUOTE="orangefan13, post: 1613015, member: 906"] But whats considered good pg play? Is it assists or scoring. Look at Uconns teams with Kemba and Boatwright/Jerami Lamb, Or ND last year with Grant, or Kentucky last year without a really good pg. Look at Novas team they play three guards. Thats plenty of point guards, where did that ever get them?? Kentucky has three great pg's right now, and they are no better then 12th right now. They are lucky they play in a midmajor conference. I want to agree. But I think a pg who is ferocious attacking the lane and scoring midrange and in the paint is more key then outstanding ballhandling abilities. Give me just decent ball handling/passing abilities instead with a great scorer any day of the week. That is what we had in 03 and 09-10. I agree turnovers are so key but the more scorers on offense you have the better. We are syraucse we play zone tall athletic. A zone that is tough extending,not extending, and rebounding with the most scorers your can stuff on the court is the perfect recipe any day of the week. Gbinije is a pretty darn good point, but we are lacking the 3rd and 4th consistant scorers to join him. I feel the same way about transition. Its a wonderful thing it can make you or break you any given game. But what do you do when your up against a good team with good shooters, is physical, passes the ball well, with a decent point guard that only averages 10 turnovers a game? Transition is kind of worthless as opposed to a good halfcourt offense in those kind of games . You can't force transition playing 2-3 zone, you can only hope the other team gives it to you. But you absolutely have to play half court offense every game. Its just a fact of college basketball. Give me good scorers who can create on their own any day of the week. We just have been super poor off the dribble since Fair Ennis and Grant left. Roberson, Kaleb, Dajuan, Cooney, Patterson, BJ, Obokoh just haven't been solid enough off the dribble to get it done this year or last, and Malachi Lydon are fresh. Howard is still a quarter step slow for a freshmen. Alot of other freshmen pg's would be a halfstep slow by comparison. Heres a neat stat we are probably somewhere near 8-50 from three off of offensive rebounds on the season, go back to exhibition games as well. That is the same look a good point guard would get someone in the halfcourt. Actually a better look then a pg would get them because the defense isn't set. Its kind of a transition look. Having a midrange guy or a forward to grab that offensive board and pound it back inside getting to the line or scoring, is so key. But it takes a) dribbling b)welcoming physical contact c) a good feel for the rim and d) position to get the shot over your opponent to finish those plays. Dajuan lacks d, Roberson lacks c, Lydon lacks b, gbinije kind of lacks d and b at times but is slightly ahead of the other three. Cooney lacks a touch of speed or something, and I think malachi has all of the above growing in his game. One key possession against miami roberson grabbed the offensive board at the end of the half about 40 seconds left. He went back up missed terribly and it resulted in a dunk the other way. That play really cut the lead down at the end of the half for miami. Its things like that, that really hurt this team. Go Cuse! [/QUOTE]

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