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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 5528174, member: 5685"] My gut says the same about FSU but at the same time they are 1-9 in their last 10 ACC games. If you take away 2023 they are 12-22 under Norvell, and 20-22 with 2023. Going back further they are 30-36 (with 2023). Going back even further they 37-41 in their last 78 ACC games. You have to go all the way back to a game played in November 2014 to get them to where they stay over .500 in ACC play. [/QUOTE]