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Message: [QUOTE="sutomcat, post: 4416232, member: 27"] There are lots of scenarios where neither SU or Wake get to the Orange. One is if Clemson does not make the playoff. This is a real possibility. Clemson does not look like a top 5 team. Their offense is not elite. Even if they do, UNC could run the table in the regular season and possibly pass Wake and Syracuse. Especially if they beat Clemson in the ACC championship game. Maybe even if they do not. But that looks unlikely. I think UNC, Wake and Syracuse all lose 2 more games in the regular season. And UNC loses another to Clemson. What happens then? If Clemson makes the playoffs, I am thinking these 3 schools are playing for 3 Florida bowls. The one that is highest ranked gets the Orange, the second best gets the Gator and the 3rd best gets the Cheez-It. I am thinking SU is close to being locked in to one of these bowls. If Clemson does not make the playoffs, that could go away. The 3rd school of this group would have to go elsewhere. Probably the Holiday Bowl?Either there or the Sun Bowl. Though if it is UNC. I guess the Mayo Bowl might really want them and that could happen. Regarding other games, did anyone see what happened last night? VT was leading NC State 21-3 late in the 3rd quarter. NC State was awful offensively with the little option QB from Charleston Southern. They went back to their frosh QB MJ Morris and this time, he was very good. NC State’s offense caught fire and they ended up winning 22-21. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401411146[/URL] I find this interesting and relevant since NC State still has to play Wake (next week) and UNC (last week of the season). They could possibly win one or both. And UL could possibly win against Wake tomorrow. NC State has no chance to get to the Orange but they will play a big role in determining who ends up the 2nd best team in the ACC this year. Keep an eye on Morris. He looks like he might be a player. [/QUOTE]

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