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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4219739, member: 1969"] As long as we are middle of the pack ACC team we don't really need to give a damn about what Duke/UNC does. It will not help us. What will help us more is getting Virginia, Louisville, Florida St back on track (not losing stupid games) and for schools like NC St and Georgia Tech not to stink like they did. At this point we can expect BC and Pitt will stink. But we can't have 3 other schools play to their level in any given year either. If those schools as a whole don't improve a lot, the days of getting in the tourney with a record of 9-11 or 10-10 or 11-9 in the ACC are long gone. [/QUOTE]