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Message: [QUOTE="wgdsr, post: 5418802, member: 7179"] several people have commented on how any hazing should be light, etc.. kids are dumb. because they're kids and don't have perspective, experience and foresight. ANY hazing is dumb. it creates the exact wrong culture, and an entitled mindset. any coach or pledge coordinator that enables it is an idiot. everyone is an equal is the way. find your hierarchy another way. my seniors, stars, goal scorers get an equal if not more share of the lifting. to be humble and to lead. it's corny, but the light stuff turns to this type of thing, even if rarely to this degree. if they're not guided to responsibility and accountability and humility, they'll choose the opposite and it can very easily go off the rails. and the culture can suck regardless. earn stripes on the field. we will continue to see these stories. [/QUOTE]