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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 802621, member: 363"] Yes that bad. Why are some people so insistent on talking about this team and the GROB era... It just seems really odd to me. Only game, IMO that would be the toss up would be the Tulane game, yes it was that bad. Jesus we are 5-4 with a great shot to go bowling, give Shafer a ing break. He seems to have put a fix on the d mid season, sure we have stout down inferior offensive teams but What do you want. That is what I am most impressed with. The offense loses it's best 4 players with a new oc and yes it's been pretty bad, but we can see that we probably need to recruit better in certain areas but for Christ sake, we have a great chance of going 7-5 which is as good as Marrone ever did! who is the same guy that many of you go to SAMs club for to buy a 5 gallon tubs of Jergens for [/QUOTE]