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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 208421, member: 716"] Really, it's entirely possible that the 2001 Billy/Konecny situation was exacerbated by the absence of veteran leadership on that toxic team). I don't know a ton of specifics, other than Billy's questionable charge and some rumors about extra-curriculars, but I doubt Williams and Shumpert did anything to improve the situation. People forget about 2004-2005 (though I regard that as far and away the greatest missed opportunity of the aughts), but that was a team whose season ended too quickly amid some discipline problems. As you mentioned, Billy had already quit and been suspended, but he and the Wrights were left behind in Syracuse for the NCAAs. I know very few specifics about all of that, but coaches and members of the press have alluded to the fact that that team had some long-simmering problems. [/QUOTE]