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Message: [QUOTE="Cstate, post: 5341252, member: 6657"] I remember 2 off-seasons ago when JG3 was basically shown the exit door (nobody knows for sure if Red was behind that) because we got JJ and everyone was like: yes! Finally we got an athlete, a 5 star!, and former McDonalds all-American, a 5 star, and a real athlete! Well guess what…..he can’t shoot, or pass, Or play D. At least Joe could do 2 of those 3. Big whiff on someone’s ability to judge talent. [/QUOTE]