What I saw a lot of last night

[texascpa]

Bubble Screens. Are we ready for that again?

Can we run them with our current personnel? I do believe our WR's did a good job of blocking this year.

 

[orangenirvana]

Nothing wrong with bubble screens when they work.

 

[Finwad32]

Nothing wrong with bubble screens when they work.

Lol, there's nothing wrong with anything when it works.

 

[Crusty]

There area zillion types of screen plays and everyone now calls them bubble screens. I am not sure there were many true bubble screens last night, I saw WR screens, tunnel screens, RB screens. I don't recall plays where the WR ran (bubbled) towards the QB on the snap.

 

[texascpa]

There area zillion types of screen plays and everyone now calls them bubble screens. I am not sure there were many true bubble screens last night, I saw WR screens, tunnel screens, RB screens. I don't recall plays where the WR ran (bubbled) towards the QB on the snap.

Yeah, I thought about expanding the screen play types, but everyone considers most screens to the WR a bubble screen. But, you're right, there were only a few true bubble screens, but several other screens that went wide. Fact is, the screen to the flanks of the offense are integral in Babers playbook. We were very inept at them in McF'its offense. I hope Babers can get them working right with our personnel, and I hope it doesn't take too long to get them working well.

 

[Crusty]

Yeah, I thought about expanding the screen play types, but everyone considers most screens to the WR a bubble screen. But, you're right, there were only a few true bubble screens, but several other screens that went wide. Fact is, the screen to the flanks of the offense are integral in Babers playbook. We were very inept at them in McF'its offense. I hope Babers can get them working right with our personnel, and I hope it doesn't take too long to get them working well.

The whole quick game is important when you pass 54% of the time. It is one of the reason they have a 68% completion rate. Quick game plays executed properly have a high probability of working. but ou can't be throwing them off target or bad things will happen. Hunt was terrible at them.

 

[retro44]

First we need more mobile olinemen to run these plays. Hicks your fired for developing Dunlap's here.

 

[Cootface]

Yeah, I thought about expanding the screen play types, but everyone considers most screens to the WR a bubble screen. But, you're right, there were only a few true bubble screens, but several other screens that went wide. Fact is, the screen to the flanks of the offense are integral in Babers playbook. We were very inept at them in McF'its offense. I hope Babers can get them working right with our personnel, and I hope it doesn't take too long to get them working well.

Our inability to effectively run a WR screen had nothing to do with personnel and everything to do with the person calling the play.

 

[Crusty]

First we need more mobile olinemen to run these plays. Hicks your fired for developing Dunlap's here.

I really don't know. They had to be pretty mobile with Lester's offense. There is also the issue of O Line coaching. S&C to be sure. It will be interesting to see what happens with the line.

 

[Crusty]

Our inability to effectively run a WR screen had nothing to do with personnel and everything to do with the person calling the play.

That's interesting. The play has always been at the option of the QB at the line based on the defense he sees.

 

[SoBristol]

What I saw last night was a senior QB who could make all the throws. Last year, same game, that senior QB was out with injuries -- and N. Illinois rolled over BGSU.

 

[TheCusian]

What I saw last night was a senior QB who could make all the throws. Last year, same game, that senior QB was out with injuries -- and N. Illinois rolled over BGSU.

BG had a different DC and weren't completely clicking in his O system.

 

[texascpa]

Our inability to effectively run a WR screen had nothing to do with personnel and everything to do with the person calling the play.

See Crusty's post above yours. He makes a valid point. Hunt just wasn't good at getting the ball out there at times.

 

[Millhouse]

If you can count, you only throw it when it's easy yardage. Spence and mcf***it take the easiest concept and ruin it for SU fans

 

[rocklloyd]

First we need more mobile olinemen to run these plays. Hicks your fired for developing Dunlap's here.

BG's linemen looked a little dumpy last night. Would say they had more of a spare tire than our guys did this year. I don't know much, but going fast means conditioning and I'm not sure we were able to pull it off this year.

 

[O-pulse]

Yeah, I thought about expanding the screen play types, but everyone considers most screens to the WR a bubble screen. But, you're right, there were only a few true bubble screens, but several other screens that went wide. Fact is, the screen to the flanks of the offense are integral in Babers playbook. We were very inept at them in McF'its offense. I hope Babers can get them working right with our personnel, and I hope it doesn't take too long to get them working well.

There is a difference between running someone else s schemes after a discussion with another staff and knowing how to run those schemes after years of fine tuning.
Lots of college hoops teams use a zone, at times. None of thme has developed the 2-3 zone like James Arthur Boeheim!

 

[PAcuse]

BGSU used the "bubble" screens well last night. It opened the middle of the defense and they where able to run up the middle at will because of it. Unlike the Syracuse bubble screens these are used to set up plays, not run 80% of our offense.

 

[money3189]

Our Lineman are much more athletic than there's and they still are able to execute very well. their line is more chunky but they were in shape by their standards. You have to be for that type of tempo.

 

[OrangeMaNPD]

I think what escapes a lot of people is that sometimes any screen, bubble, tunnel, etc. is based on the read of the QB. In fact, I'm pretty sure most of the bubble screens are just a read. As others have mentioned, it takes a QB making not only the decisive and quick read, but also getting the ball to the perimeter quickly along with a good block. It doesn't always fall on the offensive coordinator.

 

[Crusty]

I think what escapes a lot of people is that sometimes any screen, bubble, tunnel, etc. is based on the read of the QB. In fact, I'm pretty sure most of the bubble screens are just a read. As others have mentioned, it takes a QB making not only the decisive and quick read, but also getting the ball to the perimeter quickly along with a good block. It doesn't always fall on the offensive coordinator.

Exactly. Bubble screen is rarely a called play.
ND threw something like 20 against us and we couldn't stop it. If you sell out for the run or are playing quarters coverage the screen will kill you.

 

[SoBristol]

BG had a different DC and weren't completely clicking in his O system.

True about the DC. Babers brought his long-time assistant from E Illinois as his first DC, and had to make a replacement.
On offense -- not so sure. Check how Babers' offense did right away in 2014, ringing up big numbers on Indiana.

If there is a concern here it is that Babers, like Marrone, did pretty well when he had his senior star QB and veterans at skill positions. That said, let's hope we land him.

 

[OrangePA]

Our inability to effectively run a WR screen had nothing to do with personnel and everything to do with the person calling the play.

How so?

 

[OrangePA]

True about the DC. Babers brought his long-time assistant from E Illinois as his first DC, and had to make a replacement.
On offense -- not so sure. Check how Babers' offense did right away in 2014, ringing up big numbers on Indiana.

If there is a concern here it is that Babers, like Marrone, did pretty well when he had his senior star QB and veterans at skill positions. That said, let's hope we land him.

I'm an IU alum.

Everybody moved the ball against the Hoosiers the last few years

 

[RMH44]

First we need more mobile olinemen to run these plays. Hicks your fired for developing Dunlap's here.

BG's OLmen weren't the fittest group...not many meals missed.

 

[phil77]

What I saw last night was a perfect game plan for the defense they were facing. Most of the night the safeties played deep and on the hashes. Meaning the middles of the field was wide open. So the next read were the outside line backers. If they played tight to the tackles then BG threw it quick to the outside. If they played wide to take out the quick throws then they ran it up the middle. A couple times when they dropped the safeties they threw deep 1 for a TD.

The offense is designed to take what the defense gives. As soon as the defense adjusts then the offense adjusts at the line.