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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 364419, member: 615"] P should have been given another year and any reasonable person, with all the facts in front of them, would agree. 1. retain all those recruits (ray rice) 2. you don't fire a coach that late in the season when there is no good candidates available 3. the AD should be given some time to make an informed decision vs what they see in a bowl game 4. P should have been given the benefit of the doubt with the success he had over the 13 year period (in hindsight, he should have a statue in front of the dome). Not sure why we argue this anymore. WE KNOW the alternative was bad. The status quo would have been better in 2005. I'm no P apologist but the facts are the facts as of Dec 2004 and whether that was the time to get rid of him. [/QUOTE]