what is scoops assist to turnover ratio?

[gilardino]

people r saying he leads the big east in turnovers , where i thought he had the best assist to to ratio? help please

 

[pfister1]

People are wrong:

Big East Leaders - Turnovers

Rank TOs PlayerYrHtWtGmsTeam
1 97 Vincent Council Jr 6-2 180 27 Providence
2 85 Peyton Siva Jr 6-0 180 25 Louisville
3 77 Jordan Theodore Sr 6-0 174 27 Seton Hall
4 74 Eli Carter Fr 6-2 190 27 Rutgers
5 73 Shabazz Napier So 6-1 171 26 Connecticut
6 71 Anthony Collins Fr 6-1 175 22 South Florida
6 71 Henry Sims Sr 6-10 232 25 Georgetown
8 70 Maalik Wayns Jr 6-2 200 24 Villanova
9 69 Herb Pope Sr 6-8 236 26 Seton Hall
10 68 Darryl Bryant Sr 6-2 195 27 West Virginia
11 67 Deniz Kilicli Jr 6-9 260 26 West Virginia
12 66 Nasir Robinson Sr 6-5 225 28 Pittsburgh
12 66 JayVaughn Pinkston Fr 6-7 260 26 Villanova
12 66 Maurice Harkless Fr 6-8 208 27 St. John's
15 65 Junior Cadougan Jr 6-1 205 26 Marquette
16 64 Brandon Young So 6-3 193 26 DePaul
16 64 Darius Johnson-Odom Sr 6-2 215 26 Marquette
18 62 Gerard Coleman So 6-4 180 26 Providence
18 62 Cashmere Wright Jr 6-0 175 27 Cincinnati
20 60 Gary Browne Fr 6-1 185 27 West Virginia
20 60 Russ Smith So 6-0 160 26 Louisville
22 59 Scoop Jardine Sr 6-2 190 28 Syracuse
23 58 Jeremy Lamb So 6-5 180 26
Connecticut

(Conference games only Scoop is 20th with 33 turnovers in 15 games)

Big East Leaders - Assist-Turnover Ratio

RankA-TOPlayerYrHtWtGmsTeam
1 2.9 Jerian Grant So 6-5 195 27 Notre Dame
2 2.8 Jeremiah Kelly Sr 6-0 166 24 DePaul
3 2.4 Nate Lubick So 6-9 238 25 Georgetown
3 2.4 Scoop Jardine Sr 6-2 190 28 Syracuse
3 2.4 Jordan Theodore Sr 6-0 174 27 Seton Hall
6 2.3 Junior Cadougan Jr 6-1 205 26 Marquette
6 2.3 Chris Smith Sr 6-2 195 27 Louisville
8 2.1 Shabazz Napier So 6-1 171 26 Connecticut
9 2.0 Lamar Patterson So 6-5 220 26 Pittsburgh
9 2.0 Vincent Council Jr 6-2 180 27 Providence
9 2.0 Brandon Triche Jr 6-4 205 28 Syracuse
9 2.0 Dion Waiters So 6-4 215 28 Syracuse
9 2.0 Cashmere Wright Jr 6-0 175 27 Cincinnati
14 1.9 Keaton Miles Fr 6-6 190 27 West Virginia

(Conference games only Scoop is second at 2.7 behind only Jeremiah Kelly)

I couldn't find the rankings for most dumb, What or disastrous turnovers, I understand from reading this board he leads in those categories.

 

[SoBristol]

If you have a real conservative guard (fewer turnovers), you likely have a loser.

Pass around the perimeter, launch a long 3, or let someone else launch a low percentage shot = no turnover. You don't want this sort of guard unless the player is a serious shooter.

Drive into the lane, can force a foul, get an assist, get a lay-up, or sometimes get a turn-over. You can win with guys who have this skill set. I'd take Theodore, Wayns and JDO any day.

 

[zibby]

140 assists, 59 turnovers = (2.37 / 1)

 

[billsin01]

I couldn't find the rankings for most dumb, What or disastrous turnovers, I understand from reading this board he leads in those categories.

I enjoyed this. Scoop can actually have a confusing, annoying What moment from time to time, but he has had really an impeccable senior season, IMO, outside of FT percentage.

I mean, since a complete clunker vs. Marquette (6 TOs, 3 pts, 3 assts), he has turned the ball over more than three times in a game once (4 vs. G'town, but that went along with 8 assists and 2 steals) while dishing out at least 6 assists on seven occasions.

The three games where his shot hasn't been falling (ND, L'ville, G'town -- a combed 1-for-20), he still chipped in with 20 assists.

His best games:
-- 21, 6 assists vs. UConn (a game that ended in a rout but was a two-point game late in the 2nd half)

-- 17 points, 7 assists, 3 steals, 4 rebounds in tight W over RU.

-- 13 points, 6 assists, 0 TOs in 7-p0int win vs. Cincy

-- 12 points, 10 assists in tight game vs. Pitt

-- 16 pts, 7 assists, 4 rebs, 4 steals in 4-point win vs. Florida

-- 10 points, 7 rebs, 4 assists, 4 steals in tight one vs. Marshall

The guy has had a clunker or two, but he's generally put together a really solid season and been pretty good in big games. Even in the L'ville game, I don't remember more than one bad shot and a couple turnovers. Otherwise he got good looks and just didn't finish. It happens.

The guy is a good player.

 

[pfister1]

Assists:

Scoop is 45 th in the nation with 140 assists on the season.
60th at 5.0 assist per game.

Within the conference he is:

6th with 140 total
7th at 5.0 assists per game

Counting Big East play only:

3rd with 89 assists
4th in assist per game at 5.933


See if you can help me find a pattern in the leader boards below:

Big East Conference Leaders (Conference Games Only)

Assists
Assists Games
1 104 Vincent Council Jr 6-2 180 14 Providence
2 95 Jordan Theodore Sr 6-0 174 15 Seton Hall
3 89 Scoop Jardine Sr 6-2 190 15 Syracuse
4 85 Junior Cadougan Jr 6-1 205 14 Marquette
5 77 Anthony Collins Fr 6-1 175 14 South Florida
6 76 Jerian Grant So 6-5 195 14 Notre Dame

--------------------Minutes Per Game---------- Minutes Per Game (Conf.)
Vincent Council ------38.519 -------------------------39.643
Jordan Thodore ------36.111 --------------------------35.8
Scoop Jardine --------23.893 ------------------------- 26.067
Junior Cadougan ----28.346 --------------------------30.357
Anthony Collins ------31.273 --------------------------32.286
Jerian Grant --------- 35.481 --------------------------37.841
Shabazz Napier -------35.692 --------------------------35.643
Peyton Siva ------------31.0 ----------------------------31.357


So how about we stop trying to pick a part his performance and start congratulating him for having a really solid senior season and leading our team to a 27 and fing 1 record.

He may not be the best point guard of all time on the hill, but he's been a pretty darn good player that for some reason takes way too much abuse.

 

[Rocco]

I wonder how many have come from lobs? He has to be close to leading the country in alley-oops.

 

[AZOrange]

I wonder how many have come from lobs? He has to be close to leading the country in alley-oops.

He nearly threw another one in the hoop yesterday...

 

[HoustonCuse]

I've been very hard on Scoop's decision making in the past 2 years. I think he has been stellar this year in not taking dumb shots. He has really limited his crazy shots in critical situations. He has taken one or two, but nothing like last year. If he keeps up the intelligent shot taking within the flow, we have a chance to be great.

 

[billsin01]

I've been very hard on Scoop's decision making in the past 2 years. I think he has been stellar this year in not taking dumb shots. He has really limited his crazy shots in critical situations. He has taken one or two, but nothing like last year. If he keeps up the intelligent shot taking within the flow, we have a chance to be great.

But this is the funny thing: You were really that critical two years ago? I mean, he had an almost identical season to the one this year and you could really argue it may have been against even tougher competition (the BE was loaded at that point). I mean, you could even potentially argue he was better in 09-10 since he hit 75% of his free throws and even shot a bit better from three and scored a bit more in slightly fewer minutes.

But ultimately the guy has been an excellent guard for two of the last three seasons and, while he struggled at times last year, still made a lot of big shots and helped a pretty offensively challenged team (Melo was awful, Waiters was out of shape and wildly inconsistent, KJ was OK but not a big go-to guy, Fair was solid but is better this year, RJ was great but still a hair limited offensively ...) to a 28-7 record. I mean he's simply been a really good player for the better part of the last three years.

 

[IthacaMatt]

people r saying he leads the big east in turnovers , where i thought he had the best assist to to ratio? help please

There's this web site called ESPN.com. You may have heard of it. They have all our statistics right there for you.

On the season, it's 2.37 to 1. I thought he was closer to 3 to 1, myself.