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Message: [QUOTE="xc84, post: 78230, member: 1526"] I agree they are an issue. I think facilities gets us to another level but we won't get to that intermediate level until we find a way to win some more. Sure, if they can do the facilities thing they should ...but it's likely that they need a big donor to step up (otherwise we would not be discussing it) ...and big donors like to get enthused about a project first...and to get enthused, they like to see that the program is on sound footing...basically...we need some consistency in winning. [/QUOTE]