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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2516385, member: 716"] "Crappy" is too strong a word for Seton Hall, Cincinnati, and the like - should have said mediocre. I agree completely with the bolded, and the fact that he played out of position due to the Edelin thing. And that's why he (like Battle and Howard, though they're playing with an even shorter deck) aren't jersey-retirement types by my estimation. They're good, but not by definition transcendent. They aren't able to transcend and elevate teams with decent but not great teammates. Jersey-retirement guys aren't victims of supporting casts; they're the players who were consistently excellent in spite of supporting casts. But I know people really like McNamara and have no doubt that #3's going on the wall at some point. I just think he's qualitatively different than every other person on the wall other than Sidat-Singh (and he's deserving for a more important reason). [/QUOTE]