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Message: [QUOTE="Eric15, post: 1916000, member: 676"] I feel like the general board consensus is "OK, FSU and Clemson are going to be losses, let's hope to go 6-6 and get to a bowl." Which I understand, but honestly, what is so special about FSU and Clemson? They aren't the Patriots and Packers. Troy went into Clemson and took them very deep into the 4th quarter. NC State just needed to make a 33 yard field goal to win at Clemson. Are Troy and NC State really that much better than us? We just beat a team (VT) that destroyed a team (UNC) that beat FSU. I know, transitive property is illogical, but I'm rolling with it. Wake Forest (a team that the board has agreed we would have beat if the weather was good) just went into FSU and only lost 17-6. Obviously we are going to be double digit underdogs in both games, but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that we could compete here, especially against FSU at home. [/QUOTE]