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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 1978052, member: 6061"] Shafer also was victimized by the previous coach not recruiting a d-1 qb. Our current head coach did not have the same liability. Shafer also had a winning season,including a bowl win against a Big ten team in his first year. It wasn't because Marrone left the cupboard full. In 4 years, Doug didn't recruit one d-1 qb. And in the 3 years that Shafer was here, we didn't exactly fill the NFL draft with our choices. I love Syracuse university and hope that Babers can get us back to where we were in the 90's. Time will tell. The Va Tech game was great. But we barely beat UConn and Boston College. His first year was what it was. It was hardly a great success that some here want to think that it was. He was behind the 8 ball for sure. The next couple of years will tell the tale. Let's also see how we finish this recruiting class. Bnoro says that we could lose some of our recruits. That would be very bad. [/QUOTE]