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Message: [QUOTE="RandygoCuse, post: 1604717, member: 1231"] I love unconventional thinking - you won't find anyone who loves going for it on 4th more than I do. But I think the data says you go for 1. You're correct in that you shouldn't just do it to "extend the game" or because that's what's always been done. But I do believe in playing the percentages and that supports the PAT. Now, if you were to show me that mathematically teams would be better off going for 2 in this situation, I would be the first to eat a big slice of Christmas (OK, Chanukah) humble pie. [/QUOTE]