Whitlock on McQuery and the Media

[ejz555]

Good Read..

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...ctions-in-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-111711

 

[orangepassion]

Wow-Great article, as was the NY Times one he referenced. It reminds me a bit (though not nearly the same) of when I was in my small private HS in NYC and a fight broke out between 2 guys from the local public school. They were going at it right near my school, one guy slamming the others' head in to a car window. I screamed out to the about hundred people watching this fight and said-"Why doesn't anybody do anything about it"? One of them answered me-"Do you want to get in the middle of that"? Me being a little Jewish guy from his little private school was not going in and getting involved. I don't think it's the exact situation, but it is easy to talk tough from afar. Hopefuly we all learn from it.

 

[Millhouse]

Good Read..

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...ctions-in-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-111711

bad column. it's all about me! whitlock is polarizing the way nickelback is polarizing. when most people think you suck, you're not polarizing

 

[RandygoCuse]

Wow-Great article, as was the NY Times one he referenced. It reminds me a bit (though not nearly the same) of when I was in my small private HS in NYC and a fight broke out between 2 guys from the local public school. They were going at it right near my school, one guy slamming the others' head in to a car window. I screamed out to the about hundred people watching this fight and said-"Why doesn't anybody do anything about it"? One of them answered me-"Do you want to get in the middle of that"? Me being a little Jewish guy from his little private school was not going in and getting involved. I don't think it's the exact situation, but it is easy to talk tough from afar. Hopefuly we all learn from it.

Well put...I don't know what I would have done in that situation. And I think that Whitlock (who I find more than a little self righteous at times) hit it right on the head on two points: McQuery probably would have acted different at a YMCA and that courage does often come after time and delibaration. McQuery didn't have that luxury in this situation and after he failed to contact the police initially, it became harder to do so. If he had, he basically would have been admitting that he had let it go for some time. Rather than state what we would have done, I think time is better spent making a conscious decision on the right way to act in the future.

 

[jkm54]

bad column. it's all about me! whitlock is polarizing the way nickelback is polarizing. when most people think you suck, you're not polarizing

Gotta say I agree with you...I get what he was saying and I think it needed to be said, but he beats the "look at me! I'm outspoken" horse a few too many times in this article. I also think it's an article I've read 1,000 times; you just have to insert the hot sports topic going on at the time. It's like Mad Libs. I'm fairly certain none of his peers treated him like a child-rapist for criticizing the Hall of Fame process. "My point isn't to beat my chest and insinuate that I'm morally superior to my peers. I'm not..." Just saying you're not beating your chest and you're not insinuating that you're morally superior doesn't make it true. That's exactly what he's doing.

 

[Millhouse]

Gotta say I agree with you...I get what he was saying and I think it needed to be said, but he beats the "look at me! I'm outspoken" horse a few too many times in this article. I also think it's an article I've read 1,000 times; you just have to insert the hot sports topic going on at the time. It's like Mad Libs. I'm fairly certain none of his peers treated him like a child-rapist for criticizing the Hall of Fame process. "My point isn't to beat my chest and insinuate that I'm morally superior to my peers. I'm not..." Just saying you're not beating your chest and you're not insinuating that you're morally superior doesn't make it true. That's exactly what he's doing.

Good writers don't need to tell you what their point isn't.

he sticks his hickory farms beef stick like finger in the air and figures out what he needs to say to be contrarian.

 

[Chip]

bad column. it's all about me! whitlock is polarizing the way nickelback is polarizing. when most people think you suck, you're not polarizing

Saves me the read, maybe I'll look at it later. But that's the exact reason why I didn't want to click the link.

 

[djcon57]

Good Read..

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...ctions-in-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-111711

I've heard a lot of this talk lately. The "you wouldn't have done " crowd.

This is not about being a "tough guy" or a keyboard warrior. if I walked in on the CEO of my company what i believed to be a 10 year old in the ass...THE LEAST I would do if say, "What the hell are you doing...stop it." and if it didn't stop then proceed to make to stop somehow.

I'm sorry if Whitlock and his ilk like to compare walking in on a rape to not doing anything about genocides in Africa...well, I don't have private army to go on missions. I'm not Hannibal from the ATeam. However, I can be at least distraction for the kid to run away.

 

[bnoro]

Whitlock's brings nothing to the table. I hate his articles.

 

[djcon57]

I'm sorry if Whitlock and his ilk like to compare walking in on a rape to not doing anything about genocides in Africa...well, I don't have private army to go on missions. I'm not Hannibal from the ATeam. However, I can be at least distraction for the kid to run away.

OH...the David Brooks article he links is EVEN WORSE.

" Over the course of history — during the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide or the street beatings that happen in American neighborhoods — the same pattern has emerged. Many people do not intervene. Very often they see but they don’t see."

Hey you, Hitler! Stop the Holocaust now or I'll punch you.

 

[TinyManInside]

Rather than state what we would have done, I think time is better spent making a conscious decision on the right way to act in the future.

I think this is very well said.

 

[Millhouse]

OH...the David Brooks article he links is EVEN WORSE.

" Over the course of history — during the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide or the street beatings that happen in American neighborhoods — the same pattern has emerged. Many people do not intervene. Very often they see but they don’t see."

Hey you, Hitler! Stop the Holocaust now or I'll punch you.

we finally agree. brooks thinks that since most people lie in surveys that people would just let a child rape happen

stopping an old man from raping a boy might seem like an equally impossible task as stopping the holocaust to the weakest little geek on the planet like brooks, but not to any normal person

 

[Millhouse]

I think this is very well said.

You don't know how you'd act. Maybe you'd be so shocked that you'd run away, call your daddy, and then continue to work there without saying anything for 10 years.

 

[djcon57]

we finally agree. brooks thinks that since most people lie in surveys that people would just let a child rape happen

stopping an old man from raping a boy might seem like an equally impossible task as stopping the holocaust to the weakest little geek on the planet like brooks, but not to any normal person

Right. If you are not offended by someone asking, “Do you think it is appropriate for women to wear bras to work" and YOU SAID YOU WOULD BE...then you definitely would allow rape to happen. It's all in the numbers.

 

[orangenirvana]

Our most courageous and selfless decisions/actions are rarely instantaneous or instinctual.

This was his entire column, and I believe just the opposite. I think when people generally have the time to rationalize they're less likely to do the right thing than when their instinct takes over.

But maybe I'm too optimistic in thinking that people are inherently good.

 

[orangepassion]

OH...the David Brooks article he links is EVEN WORSE.

" Over the course of history — during the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide or the street beatings that happen in American neighborhoods — the same pattern has emerged. Many people do not intervene. Very often they see but they don’t see."

Hey you, Hitler! Stop the Holocaust now or I'll punch you.

That's not the point. There were people who saved innocents during the Holocaust (for example), but many didn't do a darn thing about it (at best). Based on what you're saying, maybe Mcqueary could have said "Paterno is too big in this town and there's nothing I can do other than tell him". Of course, the case isn't exactly the same, but there is a point that people often don't want to rock the boat, even though they know something very wrong is happening.

 

[PeteCalvin]

OH...the David Brooks article he links is EVEN WORSE.

" Over the course of history — during the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide or the street beatings that happen in American neighborhoods — the same pattern has emerged. Many people do not intervene. Very often they see but they don’t see."

Hey you, Hitler! Stop the Holocaust now or I'll punch you.

Your take is a little simplistic regarding the Holocaust. The point is well made, aside from the fact that it was several world leaders (and thousands of German citizens) who turned their backs on what Hitler was doing. Hard to compare a situation that involves thousands who look away versus an individual. If he wanted to make a better comparison, he could have chosen just about any world leader. For instance, FDR. The US is one of the countries that had very strong evidence of what was going on, yet did nothing. Our government turned away ships of refugees trying to escape before the Final Solution was implemented (many of those people perished). They refused to bomb the death camps early in the war when they had the intelligence to do so. All over politics. Because people didn't want Jews emigrating to the US, they pressured their leaders to turn away the problem. "If we ignore it, it will go away."

Nothing bothers me more than seeing video of someone being beaten by more than one person and people in the background just standing there. Watching the Reginald Denny beating on TV, now almost 20 years ago, made me wonder how some people can live with themselves.

 

[djcon57]

Your take is a little simplistic regarding the Holocaust. The point is well made, aside from the fact that it was several world leaders (and thousands of German citizens) who turned their backs on what Hitler was doing.

No it's not. I realize several world leaders turned their back on what Hitler was doing. I never said otherwise.

The decisions he is comparing is starting WWII with telling an old man raping a child to stop...and MY take is simplistic?

 

[stuckinbig11]

I have guessed from about Day 1 that McQueary parlayed his silence into promotion from grad assistant to assistant coach.