Who said ESPN has backed off the story?

[rrlbees]

I have now seen it 6 times in the last 7 hours on the various ESPN stations including twice showing the interviews.

 

[Cuseregular]

not sure who said that but the clip I saw just now late tonight was about as much backpeddling as one could hope to see with JB's comments and with Tim Welch saying he remembers Davis and explaining how unlikely it was to occur given he was his roomate and recalls the kid just babysitting. Absolutely nothing from the accusers.

 

[Upstate]

Surprised that last night, it was not in the A-slot introduction, but tonight, it is. News was much fresher last night. Strange. Almost like the response was bigger news than the allegations hmm..

 

[Rocco]

Watching sports center, not listed in the 1st 7 topics... Was mentioned in the previews.

 

[Jeepers]

Reporting it just as much, but the vibe has definitely turned.

 

[SaintTristan]

I have now seen it 6 times in the last 7 hours on the various ESPN stations including twice showing the interviews.

I hope someone is keeping track so that when its confirmed this is BS ESPN can give just as much airtime to discussing Fine's innocence.

 

[Col. Bleep]

Reporting it just as much, but the vibe has definitely turned.

Because Boeheim's statement is now "the" news.
That's why the story sounds different.
Day 2, reaction usually is the story.
It doesn't mean that ESPN is backing off anything.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the reason that ESPN went with the
story when it did is because Syracuse PD said they were investigating? THAT's the
development that made this a reportable story.

So...among the questions that no one seems to want to ask:

1. If the statute of limitations for criminal prosecution has lapsed (as police supposedly stated the first time Davis came to them), what and why is Syracuse PD investigating? What's different now (besides Penn State)?

2. Davis claims he was molested until he was about 27. Huh? How and why did
he supposedly let it continue so long?

3. Why is Lang coming forward now? Why not back in 2003?

4. If Davis told the police and media about the alleged abuse in 2003, why wait until 2005 to go to SU?

5. If Bernie Fine is cooperating with the investigation, has he retained a criminal
attorney? (He'd better...regardless of his guilt or innocence). Why is he using
Karl Sleight whose specialty is government investigations and some white collar crime?

 

[Jeepers]

Actually, I was watching it and thought to myself "Wow, it almost sounds like they (ESPN) are on our side now. Weird!"

 

[orangenirvana]

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the reason that ESPN went with the
story when it did is because Syracuse PD said they were investigating? THAT's the
development that made this a reportable story.

Really?

1. There are reports that ESPN went to Davis first shortly after the Penn State incident.

2. Then Lang coincidentally stepped forward and as a result ESPN, not Davis, reported it to authorities.

3. Allegations like this should never be made public until arrests are made. It really should be a law, and regardless, it should be an unwritten rule for media.

4. This is a tragic example of ESPN making news, not reporting it.

 

[Col. Bleep]

Really?

1. There are reports that ESPN went to Davis first shortly after the Penn State incident.

2. Then Lang coincidentally stepped forward and as a result ESPN, not Davis, reported it to authorities.

3. Allegations like this should never be made public until arrests are made. It really should be a law, and regardless, it should be an unwritten rule for media.

4. This is a tragic example of ESPN making news, not reporting it.

The Syracuse police spokesman says a victim came to them, according to a quote in the
Syracuse newspaper.

When a public agency - ESPECIALLY A POLICE FORCE - can operate in the dark...then
we have real problems.

However, if the point is that a media organization needs to consider the impact of its probing or
pushing prior to doing so, I am in complete agreement.

 

[kuethstheman]

I wouldn't get too excited about it falling down the list. They're basically into news reporting mode. If there's anything to report, they'll report it but if not, they realize no one cares. It doesn't indicate that they're backing off.

Watching sports center, not listed in the 1st 7 topics... Was mentioned in the previews.

 

[dash-30-dash]

I said it. The vibe of their story has changed. The "news" is the denial.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

We all know where this is...we wait for the next week for another witness or accuser to come forward. If that doesn't happen...this falls off the Sportscenter list completely.

If JB keeps saying things like "I am not Joe Paterno"...it will stay up near the top forever ;-)

 

[A Clockwork Orange]

The Syracuse police spokesman says a victim came to them, according to a quote in the
Syracuse newspaper.

When a public agency - ESPECIALLY A POLICE FORCE - can operate in the dark...then
we have real problems.

However, if the point is that a media organization needs to consider the impact of its probing or
pushing prior to doing so, I am in complete agreement.

This is incorrect. ESPN was already reporting on the story when Davis went to police again. And what I mean by that is they were in the process of putting the story together when Davis went to police again with his step brother in tow. ESPN led this story from the beginning, Syracuse PD didn't unilaterally decide to start covering it, and HEY! whaddya know, Schwarz just happened to be in town on the same day with a sat. truck ready to go live with a story if just that thing happened.

ESPN first, Syracuse PD second.

 

[longislandcuse]

The thing I have noticed is that the PSU thing broke, the next day people started to freak out, then it avalanched.

The SU thing broke, people started to freak out, the next day the news is about the denial, people are like What is this, now in day 3, the news is still the denial. No more reports from the Melo Center, as someone said they may have even replaced Schwarz with another reporter. Noone comes forward, story will be done. Only question is what do we do with Bernie Fine. I dont care, if this story fades away, re-instate him. When this story first broke, I thought omg Bernie is done either way, but with the amount of support hes gotten and how ridiculous ESPN now looks, I think Bernie could coach again even without definitive innocence.

 

[longislandcuse]

Ok, they did just report from Cuse but nothing but good things said, basically quotes from Boeheim, Fine and repeating that these allegations were already disproved.

Why no more Schwarz?

 

[jekelish]

If this does go away, I'd like to see Bernie return so he can retire on his own terms. No one's career should end based on false accusations.

However, the stigma attached to even being accused of something like this will probably be impossible to come back from. I'm just not sure Bernie will be able to recover in order to go back to doing his job.

 

[longislandcuse]

If this does go away, I'd like to see Bernie return so he can retire on his own terms. No one's career should end based on false accusations.

However, the stigma attached to even being accused of something like this will probably be impossible to come back from. I'm just not sure Bernie will be able to recover in order to go back to doing his job.

I guess well see. Were a recruiting machine right now. If nothing comes of this either way and Fine returns, we should immediately see if this affects us adversely or not.

 

[007]

Unfortunately, JB is the news at this point and ESPN will run with every sensational reactionary comment he continues to make. There are only two facts at this point: Bernie Fine has been accused by two different people and these accusations are under investigation by the SPD. Everything else is speculation, posturing, and backfill.

JB desperately needs to just let this play out. I will be shocked if Cantor, or the BOT, does not impose some sort of "gag order."

I would be very interested to hear CTO's take on this... although it is probably best that she not comment either, even in this forum.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Ok, they did just report from Cuse but nothing but good things said, basically quotes from Boeheim, Fine and repeating that these allegations were already disproved.

Why no more Schwarz?

You think Schwartz wants to camp outside the Melo Center and give a live update at the top of the hour for the next month? It took 4 months to investigate the allegations in 2005.

Schwartz went for the kill shot against Fine & Boeheim and missed. It's all mop-up duty now. He's off to the next story.

 

[DoctorBombay]

The Syracuse police spokesman says a victim came to them, according to a quote in the
Syracuse newspaper.

When a public agency - ESPECIALLY A POLICE FORCE - can operate in the dark...then
we have real problems.

However, if the point is that a media organization needs to consider the impact of its probing or
pushing prior to doing so, I am in complete agreement.

The SPD is covering their behinds- PSU laid out the blueprint on how NOT to handle this kinda thing.
At no point do they want to appear negligent or aiding in a cover-up. If they made a statement today that theSOL
is over & there's nothing they can do- the public reaction, post-PSU, would be devastating.
I'm actually glad they're investigating- since its important to expose the truth.
Schwartz & ESPN ran with this thing mostly due to PSU. Davis & Lang had a platform to make their accusations, & EVERYONE was paying attention.
Let's see if theres any "there" there- & settle this matter openly & honestly, once & for all.

 

[Upstate]

I hope Bernie and Schwartz do a "Billy Madison" where they compete in ten events inside the Dome, and in the last event Schwartz has to explain "Journalism Ethics". Schwartz pulls a gun on Bernie and DeShaun Williams shoots him from Club 44.

 

[DomeStranger]

Well, it certainly looks like they backed off to me.

It seems like the new angle they are using to divert attention away from their lack of facts and credible witnesses is the whole fiasco between SPD and the DA and SU. Trying to spin controversy of how all these agencies interacted with each other. This is all brought on by the SPD and the DA and ESPN is trying to make it look like a controversy because they have nothing else.

This is the exact reason for statute of limitations. People can't be expected to provide all the details of every interaction that was made 6-8 years ago. SPD or the DA should never be commenting on hearsay from that time frame unless they are certain what actions were or were not actually taken at the time. By law, they shouldn't have to either.