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Who were the top rated recruits from the Marrone era?

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Without looking who you say are the top recruits that Marrone brought in?
I would say Wayne Morgan, Brandon Reddish, Ashton Broyld.
 
Tiller had Miami after hims and West fell into our laps after not qualifying for Stanford.

Rating sites wise I think it was Ron Thompson.

Also, lets never forget the almost legends that were Dom Timbers and Dale Peterman.
 
Streater was ours as well if we could've snuck him by admissions. Not a huge recruiting battle but proved to be quite talented. I forget the name of the four star juco wr that committed but never made it. From Nassau I believe.
 
Without looking who you say are the top recruits that Marrone brought in?
I would say Wayne Morgan, Brandon Reddish, Ashton Broyld.

By ratings, Thompson and Spruill.
 
Marrone re-recruited everyone. Only 3 GRob kids kept their offers. Lemon, Pugh, and Andy Phillips.

We've been over this one a million times, but if someone said there was a rule where a recruit had to be assigned to either the incoming HC or the outgoing HC, one would be completely nuts if they assigned previously verballed recruits to the incoming HC. They were dropped on his lap. Keep them or move on, easy decision, not much to sell really.
 
We've been over this one a million times, but if someone said there was a rule where a recruit had to be assigned to either the incoming HC or the outgoing HC, one would be completely nuts if they assigned previously verballed recruits to the incoming HC. They were dropped on his lap. Keep them or move on, easy decision, not much to sell really.

Kids who verbal to the outgoing coach may not want to play for the incoming coach. How many kids did we lose when Marrone left ... kids that we wanted to keep?
 
Kids who verbal to the outgoing coach may not want to play for the incoming coach. How many kids did we lose when Marrone left ... kids that we wanted to keep?

Of course there are kids like that. But I just think for those you want to keep, you're not really selling much. You've been to the school, you know all about it, and now I'm here and I'm a better coach, watch and see (because I couldn't be worse). The new coach didn't have to go out and find the kid, he's right there. I wouldn't penalize an incoming coach for losing recruits, some of that is just out of their control.
 
I know this. I'd take just about every player from last years class over anyone from any of Marrone's classes. Spruill and Ron Thompson are the only guys close. I'm very high on Franklin and Slayton.
 
I know this. I'd take just about every player from last years class over anyone from any of Marrone's classes. Spruill and Ron Thompson are the only guys close. I'm very high on Franklin and Slayton.

Wow. I mean Trudo, Hickey, Thompson, Crume, Cam, Eskridge are pretty good, no?
 
Wow. I mean Trudo, Hickey, Thompson, Crume, Cam, Eskridge are pretty good, no?

Yeah - maybe an overstatement on my part. But... I still think this last class is going to end up being the best in the last 10 years. Ish, Phillips, Franklin, Oline guys, JT.
 
My point of this thread was to give Shafer a break. Marrone left depth in this program but the skill depth wasn't high. Marrone was hamstrung without the IPF but he did not recruit as well we hoped. He got some players but Nassib, Lemon, Pugh and the Jones boys were GRob recruits.
Sprull was Marrone recruit as was Sharmarko.
 
GROB was not all that bad at recruiting (at least in his first year/or two), but the fact that couldn't coach a lick hurt his last two classes, even then he had some decent ones late. HCDM was and is good at coaching and not as good at recruiting and neither was a large percentage of his staff.

I believe Shafer and his team to be way better recruiters than HCDM and slightly worse at coaching scheming and hopefully we win enough games for his classes and his staff to make it 3-4 or 4-5 years years to see how good they actually are.
 
Chip said:
We've been over this one a million times, but if someone said there was a rule where a recruit had to be assigned to either the incoming HC or the outgoing HC, one would be completely nuts if they assigned previously verballed recruits to the incoming HC. They were dropped on his lap. Keep them or move on, easy decision, not much to sell really.

Especially when your recruiter is retained.
 
GROB was not all that bad at recruiting (at least in his first year/or two), but the fact that couldn't coach a lick hurt his last two classes, even then he had some decent ones late. HCDM was and is good at coaching and not as good at recruiting and neither was a large percentage of his staff.

I believe Shafer and his team to be way better recruiters than HCDM and slightly worse at coaching scheming and hopefully we win enough games for his classes and his staff to make it 3-4 or 4-5 years years to see how good they actually are.
GRob was good at getting one really good guy and then the rest of the class would suck. I feel like he and his staff just weren't good at evaluating talent, especially on the o-line and d-line.

Marrone and Adkins seemed to be good at evaluating line talent and finding low rated guys that would develop, but wasn't able to grab much at the skill positions. It would've been interesting to see if that changed with the possibility of Gus Edwards and Zack Allen, had he stayed.

This staff seems to be relating to kids better, especially on the social media front.
 
sufandu said:
GRob was good at getting one really good guy and then the rest of the class would suck. I feel like he and his staff just weren't good at evaluating talent, especially on the o-line and d-line. Marrone and Adkins seemed to be good at evaluating line talent and finding low rated guys that would develop, but wasn't able to grab much at the skill positions. It would've been interesting to see if that changed with the possibility of Gus Edwards and Zack Allen, had he stayed. This staff seems to be relating to kids better, especially on the social media front.

One per year and the rest sucked? You might want to check our classes.
 
Kids who verbal to the outgoing coach may not want to play for the incoming coach. How many kids did we lose when Marrone left ... kids that we wanted to keep?
Or going back more than that, how many kids did we lose when P was shown the door? Say goodbye to Ray Rice's Punch-Out and Courtney Greene, for starters.
 
2003, 2004, and 2005 recruiting classes were P's last 3 and were probably the worst of the past 20 years. Easy. Top to bottom, just not good classes. G Rob had a minor hand in the 2005 class towards the end but it was mostly a P class.

Those classes ultimately helped to lead to P's demise and also didn't help GRob's ability to win here. There was some talent left over from the 2001 and 2002 classes for GRob's early years, which he squandered in 2005 trying to force fit a system with the wrong personnel, but the biggest glaring weakness left by P was at QB.

2006-2008 were stronger classes, but they tended to weigh heavily towards the top 5 guys in the class and then the remainder of the classes didn't provide much quality depth. Look at the classes - you can see that.

Marrone wasn't known for high end talent, but what he did do a good job of was filling out the program with quality depth by the time he left. Yes we were thin at some positions, but overall the program was in a much better position roster wise than when he took over.
 
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Streater was ours as well if we could've snuck him by admissions. Not a huge recruiting battle but proved to be quite talented. I forget the name of the four star juco wr that committed but never made it. From Nassau I believe.

Defarrel Davis.
 

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