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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 2586387, member: 289"] Let’s look at the players Awards: John David Crow of Texas A&M easily won the Heisman with 1183 points to 643 for second place Alex Karras of Iowa. Michigan State’s halfback Walt Kowalczyk was third with 630. Auburn’s end Jimmy Phillips was 6th with 216. Dan Currie, the Spartan’s center/linebacker, was 8th with 197 points. Clendon Thomas, Oklahoma’s halfback, was 9th with 185 point. Bob White, Ohio State Csonka-like fullback, was 4th in 1958 with 365 points. Bob Harrison, Oklahoma’s center was 7th that year with 187. Dean Look, Michigan State back-up running back in 1957 switched to QB as a senior in 1959 and finished 6th for the Heisman with 176 points. Karras won the Outland Trophy as the nation’s best lineman but the next year Auburn guard Zeke Smith won that award. That’s three Spartans who contended for awards in their careers, two Sooners, two Tigers and one Buckeye. Halls of Fame: Auburn and Michigan State had no college hall of famers. Ohio State had two: guard Aurealius Thomas and end/linebacker Jim Houston. Clendon Thomas is in for Oklahoma. All four coaches- Ralph “Shug” Jordan of Auburn, Woody Hayes of Ohio State, Duffy Daugherty of Michigan State and Bud Wilkinson of Oklahoma are in the CFHOF. Ohio State’s Dick LeBeau is in the Pro Football, (NFL) HOF. How Jim Marshall is not in the Hall of Fame is one of life’s great mysteries. Buckeye Don Sutherin is in the CFL Hall of Fame as a DB as is Spartan Ellison Kelly as a G/T. All-Americans: Jimmy Phillips was an end on the 1957 consensus AA team for Auburn and guard Zeke Smith was on the 1958 team. Michigan State’s Walt Kowalczyk was a halfback and Dan Currie a center on the 1957 AA team. End Sam Williams made the 1958 team. Bob White was fullback on the 1958 team. Clendon Thomas was the AA halfback in 1957 for the Sooners. Bill Kisher was on the 1957 as a guard. Bob Harrison was center on the 1958 team, giving the Sooners and the Spartans three each to two for Auburn and one for the Buckeyes. Pros: [B]Auburn [/B] [I]Billy Atkins[/I] played defensive back and punter for the 1958-59 49ers, the 1960-61 Bills, the 1963 Jets and Bills and the 1964 Broncos. (6 seasons) [I]Rich Kreitling[/I] played wide receiver for the Browns 1959-63 and the Bears in 1964 (6 seasons) [I]Jim “Red” Phillips[/I] had an outstanding career as a split end for the Rams (1958-64) and the Vikings 1965-67) (10 seasons). He was the NFL’s leading receiver in 1961. [I]Zeke Smith[/I] played guard for the Colts in 1960 and the Giants in 1961. (2 seasons) [I]Jerry Wilson[/I] played defensive end for the Eagles 1959-60, the 49ers 1960 and the Toronto Argonauts 1962-64. (5 seasons) That’s 5 players who played a total of 27 seasons, (5.4 per player). [B]Ohio State[/B] [I]Joe Cannavino [/I]played defensive back for the 1960-61 Raiders and 1962 Bills (3 years) (Olympic Sprinter Glenn Davis- no relation to Army’s Glenn Davis- was a wide receiver for the 1960-61 Lions but never played college football). [I]Jim Houston [/I]played linebacker for the Cleveland Browns from 1960-72. (13 seasons) [I]Dan James[/I] played tackle for the 1960-66 Steelers and the 1967 Bears (8 years) [I]Bill Jobko[/I] played linebacker for the Rams from 1958-62, the Vikings 1963-65 and the Falcons in 1966 (9 seasons) [I]Dick LeBeau[/I] played d-back for 1959 Browns and the 1959-72 Lions (14 seasons) [I]Jim Marshall[/I] played defensive end for 1959 Saskatchewan Roughriders, the 1960 Cleveland Browns and the 1961-79 Minnesota Vikings (an incredible 21 seasons!) [I]Rich Michael[/I] played tackle for the 1960-66 Oilers (7 seasons) [I]Dick Schafrath [/I]played offensive guard and tackle for the Browns from 1959-71 (13 years) [I]Jack Scott[/I] played defensive tackle for the 1960-61 Bills. (2 seasons) [I]Don Sutherin [/I]played d-back and place-kicker for the 1958 Hamilton Tiger-cats, the 1959 Giants, the 1959-60 Steelers, the 1960-66 Tiger-cats, the 1967-69 Ottawa Rough Riders and the 1970 Toronto Argonauts. (13 seasons) [I]Bob White[/I] was Csonka-like but wasn’t Csonka. He played one year for the 1960 Houston Oilers. [I]Ernie Wright[/I] played defensive tackle for the 1960-67 Chargers, the 1968-71 Bengals and the 1972 Chargers (13 years) That’s 12 players who played a total of 117 seasons (9.75 per player) [B]Michigan State[/B] [I]Bob Bercich [/I]played safety for the 1960 Giants and the 1960-61 Cowboys. (2 seasons) [I]Dan Currie [/I]played linebacker for the Packers 1958-64 and the Rams 1965-66 (9 seasons) [I]Tony Discenzo [/I]played tackle for the 1960 Bills and Patriots (1 season) [I]Roger Donnahoo [/I]played d-back for the 1960 New York Titans (1 season) [I]Bob Jewett [/I]played end for the 1958 bears. (1 season) [I]Ellison Kelly [/I]played offensive guard and tackle for the 1959 Giants, the 1960-70 Hamilton Tiger-cats and the 1971-72 Toronto Argonauts (14 years) [I]Walt Kowalczyk [/I]played fullback and d-back for the 1958-59 Eagles, the 1960 Cowboys and the 1961 Raiders. (4 seasons) [I]Dean Look [/I]played quarterback for the 1962 New York Titans (1 season) [I]Blanche Martin [/I]played fullback for the 1960 Chargers and New York Titans. (1 season) [I]Archie Matsos [/I]played linebacker for the 1960-62 Bills, the 1963-65 Raiders and the 1966 Broncos and Chargers. (7 seasons) [I]Jim Ninowski [/I]played quarterback for the 1958-59 Browns, the 1960-61 Lions, the Browns again 1962-66, the Redskins 1967-68 and the 1969 Saints (12 years) [I]Frank (Fran) O’Brien [/I]played tackle for the 1959 Browns, the 1960-66 Redskins and the 1966-69 Steelers (11 points) [I]Palmer Pyle [/I]played guard for the 1960-63 Colts, the 1964 Vikings and the 1966 Raiders. (6 seasons) [I]Paul Rochester [/I]played defensive tackle for the Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs from 1960-63 and the 1964-69 Jets (10 years) [I]Sam Williams [/I]played for the 1959 Rams, the 1960-65 Lions and the 1965-67 Falcons. (9 seasons) [I]Jim Wulff [/I]played HB/DB for the 1960-61 Redskins (2 seasons) That’s 15 players who played a total of 77 seasons (5.1 per player) [B]Oklahoma[/B] [I]Dave Baker[/I] played d-back for the 1959-61 49ers (3 seasons) [I]Bobby Boyd [/I]played cornerback for the 1960-68 Colts (9 seasons- ended his career losing to the Jets in SB3) [I]Gene Cockrell [/I]played offensive tackle for the 1957 Saskatchewan Roughriders and the 1960-62 New York Titans (4 seasons) [I]Jack Davis [/I]played guard for the 1958 Redskins and 1960 Broncos. (2 seasons) [I]Prentice Gautt [/I]played running back for the 1960 Browns and 1961-67 Cardinals. (8 seasons) [I]Bob Harrison [/I]played defensive tackle for the 1959-61 49ers, the 1962-63 Eagles, 1964 Steelers and 1965-67 49ers. (9 seasons) [I]Billy Krisher [/I]played guard for the 1958 Steelers and 1960-61 Dallas Texans (3 seasons) [I]Wahoo McDaniel [/I]played linebacker and guard for the 1960 Oilers, 1961-63 Broncos, 1964-65 Jets and the 1966-68 Dolphins (9 seasons) [I]Dennit Morris [/I]played linebacker for the 1958 49ers and 1960-61 Oilers. (3 seasons) [I]Dave Rolle [/I]played fullback for the 1960 Broncos (1 season) [I]Clendon Thomas [/I]played HB/DB for the 1958-61 Rams and the 1962-68 Steelers (10 seasons) That’s 10 players who played a total of 61 seasons (6.1 per player) Ohio State seems to have had the most talented roster and Auburn the least. Michigan State had the most players but 5 of their guys played only 1 season, (Dean Look played only 1 game). Oklahoma had a solid group but not as star-studded as in previous years. Really, none of these teams were star-driven. It was more about the overall talent and how they played as a team. Auburn has the undefeated record, the #1 ranking and the support of most of the selectors, (although they found a way to manipulate the AP Poll to give themselves a larger lead). They also have an historically great defense. At this point they didn’t have much of a history of competing for the national title but they have several times since. But they were the weakest of the four teams in overall performance as measured by comparative scores, against ranked teams and point differentials and had the fewest future pros. On top of that they were a segregated team that played only segregated teams and they were on probation. I have always been against probation as a means of policing the sport. Typically the players and coaches who were involved in the infractions have long since left the school by the time any punishment is levied. They are often coaching or playing at other schools. I prefer fines, suspensions and banishments that follow the perpetrators. Auburn’s suspension was due to allegations of giving money to a hot quarterback prospect named Don Fuell, who was on campus in 1957. He was on the freshman team and transferred to Mississippi Southern, (now Southern Mississippi), where he became their star before a career in the CFL. But he never played for Auburn’s 1957 varsity. The alleged was reported to the conference by Alabama coach “Ears” Whitworth. It was then reported to the NCAA. Fuell was quoted as saying that he’d been offered “thousands of dollars” by other schools. He said that Auburn only offered “a college education if I passed my grades didn’t get into any trouble and tried real hard”. There were allegations that Fuell was provided with “an air conditioner for his home, a $1700 motorboat and a new car or $2200 in cash”. A reporter found he did, indeed have an air conditioner and had owned a motorboat, the financing for which Fuell said was arranged from his father but he’d lost it when he could not keep up the payments. He claimed to have been offered money to transfer to Tennessee or Mississippi Southern. [URL="https://www.aufamily.com/forums/topic/58848-interesting-article-about-auburn-going-on-probation-in-the-1950s/"]Interesting article about Auburn going on probation in the 1950's[/URL] It seems like a case of the old powers that been resenting the new kid on the block and nailing them for something that was commonplace. My instinct is to not exclude Auburn because of their probation but I’ll let everybody make up their own mind on this subject. Ohio State and Michigan State came from the best conference. Ohio State seems to have had the most talent but Michigan State seems to have performed the best overall of the four teams. The Spartans had been ranked #1 even ahead of Auburn with its spotless record when they were pulled out of the #1 spot for no apparent reason. Oklahoma was the dominant power in college football at the time, although not quite as dominant as they had been. But some of that was that their conference was “waking up” to become more competitive. You would think that they are like Alabama now: in the hunt for #1 even if they get beat somewhere along the way. All three of these teams did get beat, by small margins by teams with winning records. And teams with a loss don’t normally take national championships away from power conference teams with unblemished records. So….Who’s #1 for 1957? [/QUOTE]

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