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[QUOTE="AluminNV, post: 483010, member: 2866"]
Eh Pats offense is better w/o him and with McDaniels back.
 
I think he's overrated.  If he didn't famously yell at Tom Brady who knows where he'd be or if Ped St would have gone after him doing that made him an overnight celebrity.
 
Last year they had McGloin and other seniors playing for pride.  They were not at a talent disadvantage.  Nor were they dominated on the lines of scrimmage.
 
Obrien has to win without a veteran QB or superior talent on D.  Thats not linebacker U right now.  Winning next year will be a totally different ball game.
 
I mean last year Ped St had some tough losses early and I guess they deserve some credit for not quitting but they were a good team losing Redd and Bolden wasn't as a huge deal there was enough there.  I think OBrien got a little too much credit.
 
Their best player next year is gonna be that white RB if you shut him down you can probably beat Ped St.  Obrien has to win without a great QB too not exactly something he is used to.
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