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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 259644, member: 966"] Steve Fisher has a NC. Gary Williams has one. Sometimes stuff happens. [I'm less impressed that JB has a NC than with the fact that he has three finals appearances.] re: 75%... Can you really say that we don't have better/more talent than MORE than 75% of the teams we play? And, don't leave out the non-conference/pre-conference schedule. With the Dome as a major recruiting factor, what percentage of games would you expect we should win with a 'replacement level' coach? I'm playing devil's advocate here. Seriously. If this were baseball, and you were evaluating the coach in terms of WAR, how many wins is JB worth over the course of a season? Don't cherrypick this season. Take the last 15 years, and plug in an 'average coach' with the same players. Last year, i think i figured that SU finished, an average of 4th in the conference over those 15 years. Objectively, what's JB worth? [/QUOTE]