Why can't we get a kicker who can kick out of end zone

[OmahaCuse]

Watching Vatech kicker do this every kick is a huge advantage. Seems like you could find a walk on to do this. Again, huge advantage never allowing the other team to start past 25.

 

[rocklloyd]

A question I've been asking since olindo mare graduated

 

[PAcuse]

#firewillhicks

 

[SouthernCuse]

But UCLAs kicker and a bunch of others i watched this weekend, cause like you I was looking for it, couldn't get it done either. We could recruit her, i think she still has 3 years eligibility.

 

[PhatOrange]

Didn't CCSU down the ball in the endzone a few times?

Fwiw I watch a lot of college football, there's not a lot of kicks that hit the end one.

 

[TheCusian]

Rewatch the game

Didn't CCSU down the ball in the end one
a few times?

Fwiw I watch a lot of college football, there's not a lot of kicks that hit the end one.

At least 3-4

 

[texascpa]

Watching Vatech kicker do this every kick is a huge advantage. Seems like you could find a walk on to do this. Again, huge advantage never allowing the other team to start past 25.

If there was a walk-on out there that could consistently kick the ball out of the end zone, then he wouldn't be a walk-on. He'd have a scholarship offer from every P5 school out there.

 

[Alsacs]

Watching the Patriots you want a kicker who drop the ball in between the 1-5 and pin the opponent deep and give yourself an opportunity to cause a fumble.

Our kicker did a solid job. CCSU was a taking a knee when it was one yard deep. Then they started doing those stupid reverse/fake reverses.

Our kick coverage was fine. Just keeping the opponent inside the 30 should be the goal.

 

[rocklloyd]

Watching the Patriots you want a kicker who drop the ball in between the 1-5 and pin the opponent deep and give yourself an opportunity to cause a fumble.

Our kicker did a solid job. CCSU was a taking a knee when it was one yard deep. Then they started doing those stupid reverse/fake reverses.

Our kick coverage was fine. Just keeping the opponent inside the 30 should be the goal.

But our coverage has sucked over past 7 or 8 years and the strategy of trying to pin an opponent works for a well oiled like the Pats but has burned us more times that I care to count.

Consistently kick into end to take a long run totally out of discussion.

 

[blizz]

Odds are actually better that a return does not pass the 20. Over the long run you get a field position advantage by taking the touchback. It is actually better to kick to the 5 and force a return.

But that's just statistics, more important to be gangster and kick into the stands to show how tough you are. Even better is to go get the ball out of the stands and run it back anyway. This is Syracuse and we don't care about averages and odds and all that crap. Just gimme the damn ball!

On another note, they should just get rid of the audio system all together. The announcer should just scream from the booth. If you can't hear, too bad, that's on you. If you can't understand the refs hand signals, get a life!

 

[Killdozer]

Odds are actually better that a return does not pass the 20. Over the long run you get a field position advantage by taking the touchback. It is actually better to kick to the 5 and force a return.

But that's just statistics, more important to be gangster and kick into the stands to show how tough you are. Even better is to go get the ball out of the stands and run it back anyway. This is Syracuse and we don't care about averages and odds and all that crap. Just gimme the damn ball!

On another note, they should just get rid of the audio system all together. The announcer should just scream from the booth. If you can't hear, too bad, that's on you. If you can't understand the refs hand signals, get a life!

I believe the ball is spotted at the 25 yard line now so I think you have a good point about the odds of making worse field position for the opponent on a return.

 

[SU68]

Watching Vatech kicker do this every kick is a huge advantage. Seems like you could find a walk on to do this. Again, huge advantage never allowing the other team to start past 25.

I don't want the ball kicked out of the end zone. I want it kicked to inside the 2 or 3 yard line and force the returner to make a decision. With a better coverage team now, you can measure plus or minus yardage from the 25. If we consistently stop the return inside the 25, it's good coverage.

 

[TexanMark]

One thing about kicking deep with no return...it saves guys from getting injured

 

[rocklloyd]

One thing about kicking deep with no return...it saves guys from getting injured

And it prevents 50 yard returns.

 

[MadNY3]

Watching Vatech kicker do this every kick is a huge advantage. Seems like you could find a walk on to do this. Again, huge advantage never allowing the other team to start past 25.

Another huge advantage is feeling confident your senior kicker can convert XPs. And now that's out the window.

 

[retro44]

Alabama had their starting Running back block a punt against FSU.....You play your best athletes on special teams. Saban doesn't joke around at all.

 

[retro44]

One thing about kicking deep with no return...it saves guys from getting injured

UMMMM,...it might save the returner more than anyone else as guys are still getting leveled at the 30.

 

[Eric15]

If there was a walk-on out there that could consistently kick the ball out of the end zone, then he wouldn't be a walk-on. He'd have a scholarship offer from every P5 school out there.

And while we're at it, let's find a walk-on who is a Freeney-esque pass rusher.

 

[Eric15]

Saban doesn't joke around at all.

Figuratively and literally. I honestly don't think I've ever seen him have anything resembling a light-hearted moment.

 

[Moontan]

The wind in the Dome affects field goals and presumably kickoffs*. Hard to kick it out of the endzone in those conditions.

* Tyrone Willingham

 

[cuse10]

Kicking in college is bad across the board. The elite are truly that. Because kicking is so bad throughout the college game, you see teams willing to go for the first down as opposed to a guaranteed three points when they're within 30 yards or less. Saw it a number of times this past weekend alone.

 

[TexanMark]

Kicking in college is bad across the board. The elite are truly that. Because kicking is so bad throughout the college game, you see teams willing to go for the first down as opposed to a guaranteed three points when they're within 30 yards or less. Saw it a number of times this past weekend alone.

GaTech agrees.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

But our coverage has sucked over past 7 or 8 years and the strategy of trying to pin an opponent works for a well oiled like the Pats but has burned us more times that I care to count.

Consistently kick into end to take a long run totally out of discussion.

We've had much bigger issues over the last 7-8 years than kick coverage.

 

[rocklloyd]

We've had much bigger issues over the last 7-8 years than kick coverage.

maybe but poor kick coverage has contributed to the mess so why put yourself in a position to be set up?

 

[OrangeFoo]

Alabama had their starting Running back block a punt against FSU...You play your best athletes on special teams. Saban doesn't joke around at all.

It easy to do that when you have 2 first round draft picks behind the starting RB waiting for their chance.

As someone said in a different thread, in no sport is the disparity between the elites and the average greater than in college football... People complain about Kentucky in hoops but Alabama is essentially using the same recruiting strategy except there are no one and one and dones and there seems to be a lot more room for error due to misprojection in college football.