Why couldn't we get the Marshall QB?

[PeteCalvin]

That kid looked pretty damn good. How can a D1 school like Syracuse swing and miss on QB's for almost 16 years? Even Nova got a solid QB. We get guys who play QB as a second position.

 

[Rocco]

I'd say Nassib was pretty good. Further, some kids develop slower, go unnoticed in HS then blow up in college.

 

[kcsu]

Coaching has a ton to do with it. Based on my untrained eye i really like the kid from the West Coast. My sense he takes over for Hunt after next year

 

[TheCusian]

I'd say Nassib was pretty good. Further, some kids develop slower, go unnoticed in HS then blow up in college.

Exactly. We only pay attention to this little schools when they have a stud - we don't see the years they have mediocre to bad QB's...

 

[texascpa]

I'm interested as to why SU has not reached out to Madei Williams, seeing as he's become somewhat of a "QB Training Guru".

 

[orangenauburn]

I'm interested as to why SU has not reached out to Madei Williams, seeing as he's become somewhat of a "QB Training Guru".

We have

He will send us kids if interested

He is not forcing anything ... That's a bad business model for him

He still likes us btw

 

[anomander]

Exactly. We only pay attention to this little schools when they have a stud - we don't see the years they have mediocre to bad QB's...

Byron Marshal, Chad Pennington. Marshal typically has a good qb.

I think a lot of our failures at qb have been our insistence on recruiting dual threat qbs. Nassib has been our only good qb in 15 years and he was a pocket passer. The weird thing is we haven't even run offenses that really need a dual threat. Recruiting wise I wouldn't mind seeing us put less of an emphasis on running, and more an emphasis on passing.

 

[anomander]

I'm interested as to why SU has not reached out to Madei Williams, seeing as he's become somewhat of a "QB Training Guru".

AJ Long is working with him now.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Byron Marshal, Chad Pennington. Marshal typically has a good qb.

I think a lot of our failures at qb have been our insistence on recruiting dual threat qbs. Nassib has been our only good qb in 15 years and he was a pocket passer. The weird thing is we haven't even run offenses that really need a dual threat. Recruiting wise I wouldn't mind seeing us put less of an emphasis on running, and more an emphasis on passing.

Byron Leftwich

Also Pennington graduated 2 years after McNabb so can't really say they've been cranking out qb's since we last had a super star.

Also, I think Hunt and Long would clean up against MAC defenses week to week. Hunt certainly did as much vs CMU.

 

[Cheriehoop]

I can only imagine the "excitement" if we recruited a 6' 150 lb quarterback. He makes AJ Long look buff at 6' 177 lbs. He's close friends with Durell Eskridge so I imagine we knew about him. Interesting article.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...dering-herd-quarterback-rakeem-cato/11813571/

 

[TheCusian]

Byron Marshal, Chad Pennington. Marshal typically has a good qb. I think a lot of our failures at qb have been our insistence on recruiting dual threat qbs. Nassib has been our only good qb in 15 years and he was a pocket passer. The weird thing is we haven't even run offenses that really need a dual threat. Recruiting wise I wouldn't mind seeing us put less of an emphasis on running, and more an emphasis on passing.

Those guys are contemporaries of McNabb. What about between now and then?

 

[texascpa]

AJ Long is working with him now.

Thought I had heard something about that. Good.

 

[orangefog]

Byron Marshal, Chad Pennington. Marshal typically has a good qb.

I think a lot of our failures at qb have been our insistence on recruiting dual threat qbs. Nassib has been our only good qb in 15 years and he was a pocket passer. The weird thing is we haven't even run offenses that really need a dual threat. Recruiting wise I wouldn't mind seeing us put less of an emphasis on running, and more an emphasis on passing.

Yeah, and just because a guy is labeled a "pocket passer" does not mean he can't be athletic. I want to have intelligent, pocket passers with some athleticism so they can run five to eight yards for a first down when he sees open field.

 

[JoeSU]

IMO QB recruits tend to gravitate to programs that run offense that are "QB friendly". This was supposedly why Zach Allen went to TCU and Colt Brennan went to Hawaii. How many times in the last 20 years have we altered our offense? We have no offensive identity that resonates with recruits.

 

[orangeinjersey]

we're gonna throw to 12 Tight Ends, thats our philosophy

 

[SUFan44]

I'd say Nassib was pretty good. Further, some kids develop slower, go unnoticed in HS then blow up in college.

Nassib was pretty good as a senior. That's it. Please don't make him out to be an All American.

 

[Cusefan78]

Colt Brennan went to Hawaii because cantor wouldn't allow grob to bring him in.

 

[JoeSU]

Colt Brennan went to Hawaii because cantor wouldn't allow grob to bring him in.

And why do you suppose he ended up at Hawaii, of all places?
BTW, Merry Christmas!

 

[Cheriehoop]

And why do you suppose he ended up at Hawaii, of all places?
BTW, Merry Christmas!

And his first choice was SU wonder about that too? Merry Christmas.

 

[alphaorange]

Byron Marshal, Chad Pennington. Marshal typically has a good qb.

I think a lot of our failures at qb have been our insistence on recruiting dual threat qbs. Nassib has been our only good qb in 15 years and he was a pocket passer. The weird thing is we haven't even run offenses that really need a dual threat. Recruiting wise I wouldn't mind seeing us put less of an emphasis on running, and more an emphasis on passing.

Wasn't Nassib a wing-t QB? I don't think he was much of any kind of passer pre-SU.

 

[orangepassion]

We'll learn a lot about Holliday after cato graduates

 

[JoeSU]

And his first choice was SU wonder about that too? Merry Christmas.

So (getting back to Pete's original post), why do you think Syracuse has been unable to recruit a quality QB over the past 16 years?

 

[matcuse]

So (getting back to Pete's original post), why do you think Syracuse has been unable to recruit a quality QB over the past 16 years?

I say your only as good as your offensive line, qb can be average but give him time in the pocket and a solid running he can turn out to be great..

 

[Czar]

we're gonna throw to 12 Tight Ends, thats our philosophy

You owe me a new computer monitor. Because there's water all over this one now.

 

[orangeinjersey]

You owe me a new computer monitor. Because there's water all over this one now.

Glad I could give you a laugh after this horrible awful season we just had.