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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 740407, member: 137"] Sorry but I challenge the notion that NW is a good defense. Cal put up 30 against them and only put up 37 against Portland St. Cal was 10-20 on 3rd down vs NW, 10-21 on 3rd down vs Portland St. Cal had 548 yards vs NW, 616 vs Portland ST. Based on that I would say NW defense is only slightly better than FCS. Also scares the crap out of me that Cal had to basically hold their breath vs Portland St for a final of 37-30 so it's not like Cal was playing 2nd/3rd string and therefore not generating offense. Want something to really worry about, compare the box scores, Cal vs NW, Cal vs Portland, SU vs NW. On 2nd thought...don't. I wish I hadn't. [/QUOTE]