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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 740720, member: 363"] Agree that shows that we have had decent to average talent. The talent at Syracuse is always going to be what it is for the most part, it will go up and down a bit in many areas. Again, people waiting for top 20-25 recruiting classes are kidding themselves in my opinion. top 40-45 can be done, develop the talent, good coaching that remains consistent and you will see a consistent good product on the field, when we have talented seniors we will see very good years. I just can't imagine after 10-15 years with the current landscape of college football that Syracuse will ever bring in a top 20 class. Would love to be wrong here. Northwestern probably recruits on about the same level as we do, how do they compete? their classes are probably between 50-75 if I guess correctly. The trick is finding the right HC, who can teach systems, motivate and keep his staff in tact for the most part, always going to be some influx always but that is the trick at Syracuse. Shafer could be that guy, I don't know but I think he will learn a painful lesson that he has to hire better teachers first then recruiters, IMO. You need a nice balance of course but if you can't develop and coach up at Syracuse your flucked. Get the athletes and teach them to be football players, that is what Marrone was doing in NYC. YOU CAN NEVER JUST ROLL IT OUT AND LET THEM HAVE AT IT HERE, it will never work. If you are consistently getting outcoached and out schemed here, your flucked and flucked bad. The talent won't mask too many sins in this area, it just wont, it's a razor thin margin for error at SU. Shafer knows this but I think he made a poor business decision with some of his assistants, I THINK I said. I am thinking down the road, you could see him take the D back over and go out and hire a proven top notch OC, as Kasier would say a guy that wears polyester coaching shorts and chews redman.. ( Not BEES) A guy too old to wear white underwear. [/QUOTE]

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