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[QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1731659, member: 837"]
I can see both of these arguments and, in particular, you make some good points on Triche. I guess I'd still probably fall on the other side of the argument on those b/c I feel like Triche -- and this will be an insult I suppose, though I don't really intend it to be -- was better as a complimentary player. Frosh and Junior year he only played ~20 mpg and I feel like you saw a more efficient and productive player. Shot better from 3, took better care of the ball (as a junior at least, struggled with that as a frosh to a degree) and played good defense. When he was forced into more minutes, to me his value dropped precipitously. But, I can't argue with how he played late in 2013 -- really solid in the BET, pretty good in the NCAA tourney (offensively) and part of one of the better runs of defense we've seen in a while: slowing down a talented Cal team, absolutely drubbing IU and embarrassing a good Marquette team. So I probably need to give him more credit.

With Rak, I just think we needed to get more value out of him earlier than we did. Tough to argue he wasn't unreal as a senior but it hurts to have a guy with that much talent have so little impact for three years.
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