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Message: [QUOTE="qdawgg, post: 1545944, member: 52"] Not disagreeing with you completely. But Pitt is one example that it can be done and they have literally gone through significant coaching changes, regularly, while still retaining about the same level of play. SU is another example of how a new guy can be at a disadvantage. However, I don't know that you can say Shafer was in the same situation situation as a brand new coach. He was the DC, was an active recruiter, and knew the players on the team - it was a significantly much easier transition for him compared to a brand new coach coming in. [/QUOTE]