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Message: [QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5688929, member: 173"] If I was on a team that’s not going to the tourney, has had a run of losses, and can’t score - my 100% effort on defense would be about 80%. It would feel like 100% to me - but it wouldn’t be. Pretty much every time I post this basic idea, the response is that’s a loser mentality, or you gotta have pride and play hard anyway - or some other irrelevant BS which tells me either that person never played on a terrible team, or lied to themselves about what a hustling superstar they were anyway. It’s not reality, players on bad teams quiet quit pretty consistently. Even if they don’t want to and think they aren’t. We can say it’s on the coach, and to some degree it is - but the basketball version of Vince Lombardi would not have any success motivating this team to play defense. [/QUOTE]