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- From my SU season preview: “And here come the Wolfpack who delight in torturing the Orange. They are 8-1 against us all time and I remember each one of them: 20-43, 22-28, 0-38, 19-27, 31-32, 17-38, 24-10, 17-24, 29-42. Nothing seems to matter. We are 1-2 against them when we had the best won loss record and 0-6 when they did. We are 0-4 against them in Syracuse and 1-4 in Raleigh. Our one win came in a season when they’d had a lot of injuries, so I guess that matters. But the Wolfpack has always gorged themselves on the Orange: those 1997-98 losses to them are two of the most painful defeats I’ve ever experienced in sports. Are there more to come?” Yup.
- Comparative scores: Syracuse 9 Wake Forest 28. NC State 33 Wake Forest 14. Syracuse 33 Notre Dame 50. NC State 10 Notre Dame 3. Syracuse 0 Clemson 54. NC State 17 Clemson 24 (OT, after the Pack missed a chip shot field goal that would have won it), Syracuse 28 Louisville 62. NC State 13 Louisville 54, Syracuse 31 Boston College 24, NC State 14 Boston College 21, Oh, and the Pack just lost to Florida State 20-24. We’ll see how that works out. No transitive property? That’s 5 comparisons, two that suggest we might be comparable to them and three that suggest we aren’t. Can we ignore that? It appears we need them to play down to our level to have a chance in this one.
- And with no or a limited Eric Dungey, what level will we be playing at?
- Dungey, having a record setting year at SU, has produced 15TD passes and 7 interceptions on 355 passes. Ryan Finley, with much less fanfare, has thrown for 14 scoring with 7 interceptions in 281 attempts for the Wolfpack. So that’s a wash – if we have a healthy Dungey.
- From Nunes: “The Wolfpack are in the top third in the country in completing long pass plays from scrimmage — something that could prove problematic for the Orange.” Naah… that’s been no problem this year.
- Their top three rushers, none of them quarterbacks, are averaging 5.0 yards, per carry, (Matthew Dayes), 5.7 (Jaylen Samuels) and 6.2 (Reggie Gallaspy). Our leading rusher is Dungey, (2.3), followed by Strickland (3.8) and the injured Moe Neal, (4.8). We do have a guy on the bench named Jordan Fredericks, (5.0 and 5.7 last year), but if form holds, we won’t see him while the game is still competitive.
- We have the 113th best rushing attack in the country, (of 128 teams) with 127 yards per game. We are #11 in passing with 337 yards and 38th in total yards with 463 but all that has gotten us is #100 in points scored with 23.7, (down from last year’s 27.3 under the stodgy Shafer) . We have more consistent numbers across the board on defense: 94th against the run (1999), 105th against the pass (265), 110th in total yards ((463), and 106th in scoring (34.1). State doesn’t run very much, (although they do it well- see above), so they are 98th in rushing (147- still 20 yards a game better than us), 38th in passing (261), 63rd in total yard (408), 83rd in scoring (26.0), 9th in rushing defense (107- which would matter if we had a rushing attack to worry about), 92nd in passing (251), 26th in total defense (358) and 37th in scoring defense with 23.4- just about what we score. Those numbers certainly make them look like much the better team.
- Comparative scores: Syracuse 9 Wake Forest 28. NC State 33 Wake Forest 14. Syracuse 33 Notre Dame 50. NC State 10 Notre Dame 3. Syracuse 0 Clemson 54. NC State 17 Clemson 24 (OT, after the Pack missed a chip shot field goal that would have won it), Syracuse 28 Louisville 62. NC State 13 Louisville 54, Syracuse 31 Boston College 24, NC State 14 Boston College 21, Oh, and the Pack just lost to Florida State 20-24. We’ll see how that works out. No transitive property? That’s 5 comparisons, two that suggest we might be comparable to them and three that suggest we aren’t. Can we ignore that? It appears we need them to play down to our level to have a chance in this one.
- And with no or a limited Eric Dungey, what level will we be playing at?
- Dungey, having a record setting year at SU, has produced 15TD passes and 7 interceptions on 355 passes. Ryan Finley, with much less fanfare, has thrown for 14 scoring with 7 interceptions in 281 attempts for the Wolfpack. So that’s a wash – if we have a healthy Dungey.
- From Nunes: “The Wolfpack are in the top third in the country in completing long pass plays from scrimmage — something that could prove problematic for the Orange.” Naah… that’s been no problem this year.
- Their top three rushers, none of them quarterbacks, are averaging 5.0 yards, per carry, (Matthew Dayes), 5.7 (Jaylen Samuels) and 6.2 (Reggie Gallaspy). Our leading rusher is Dungey, (2.3), followed by Strickland (3.8) and the injured Moe Neal, (4.8). We do have a guy on the bench named Jordan Fredericks, (5.0 and 5.7 last year), but if form holds, we won’t see him while the game is still competitive.
- We have the 113th best rushing attack in the country, (of 128 teams) with 127 yards per game. We are #11 in passing with 337 yards and 38th in total yards with 463 but all that has gotten us is #100 in points scored with 23.7, (down from last year’s 27.3 under the stodgy Shafer) . We have more consistent numbers across the board on defense: 94th against the run (1999), 105th against the pass (265), 110th in total yards ((463), and 106th in scoring (34.1). State doesn’t run very much, (although they do it well- see above), so they are 98th in rushing (147- still 20 yards a game better than us), 38th in passing (261), 63rd in total yard (408), 83rd in scoring (26.0), 9th in rushing defense (107- which would matter if we had a rushing attack to worry about), 92nd in passing (251), 26th in total defense (358) and 37th in scoring defense with 23.4- just about what we score. Those numbers certainly make them look like much the better team.
