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Message: [QUOTE="Stern, post: 421895, member: 527"] Yeah we disagree. My point is if FSU and Clemson leave the ACC then ACC football is dead. It would be the Big East 2.0. and we know how that story plays out over time. I don't know IF FSU or Clemson are going anywhere but if they do [I](which lets be honest it wouldn't be shocking if they did leave)[/I] the conference is dead from a football perspective and it will change a lot of things going forward. Would it go away totally, probably not right away. Over time though if the SEC decides to expand plucks a couple teams and if the Big 10 goes to 16 and such...yeah maybe it might. [/QUOTE]