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Message: [QUOTE="Cuseregular, post: 138432, member: 185"] actually it's not really absurd at all. The on the field leadership you note is the hallmark of a quiet leader if that's all the "leadership" they show. Meaning not as much off the field. All reports are that off the field he's still too intense and in your face which doesn't work well with everyone. Being an ineffective off the field leader can create problems and translate to on the field issues that sap production. Particularly if there's non production at certain position and others on the team think other younger players should get a chance. This creates fractions within a team on top of any coach related issues they might already be feeling. A great leader both on and off the field who has at least decent/requisite talent can literally will a team to at least one victory out the 5 in question here. Was he the sole reason for the team divisions? Certainly no and I didn't suggest such, but the qb position magnifies these issues at hand and when the player at that position is struggling with these issues both on and off the field, both in terms of the intangible "leadership" concerns and then the tangible on the field stats and wins/losses, then it results in what we've seen. That being a team deficient in most areas to one degree or another made more challenging by facilities that could be better, and then throw in the qb issues discussed here and the result is subpar performance. Conversely if you have a qb that can create, keep plays alive with his feet, in combination with a more effective leadership style then I think improvements would occur. This even with all the mistakes this new young player would inevitably make. [/QUOTE]

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