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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 138447, member: 837"] That's all conjecture and I think it's something the media buys into lock, stock and barrel, but I'm not sure there's much to it. Mike Vick may have been a and a and not terribly intelligent but his undeniable talent won games for his teams in college and at the nfl level. I don't know, I just think that the exact same Nassib personality-wise would be considered a much better "leader" if he was Andrew Luck in the talent department. [/QUOTE]