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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 4070704, member: 668"] Don't kid yourself if you believe that. It certainly is a significant contributing factor. Setting the high bar at mediocrity, 6-6, just get to a bowl, any bowl, etc. is hardly high achievement. Moreover, when one sets the bar at such a level, it leaves very little wiggle room for success and the greater likelihood for failure. SU is indeed where it is, and has been for the better part of two decades now, because of its relatively low expectations...on all fronts that encompasses. [/QUOTE]