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Message: [QUOTE="blizz, post: 2286632, member: 4252"] Not long ago I would have bought the mantra that winning was the answer. With regard to specifically the students showing up, I'm not so sure anymore. That's what I was trying to get at in my earlier post. What has Indiana or Iowa State or Minnesota accomplished in the last decade? Nothing. Yet their students show out at games. Why the big difference? As much as we rag on Rutgers around here, their students seem to show up. Why them and not us? If the focus group bit is true I'd be interested to hear what they learn. [/QUOTE]