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Message: [QUOTE="FRANKIEFAN, post: 4817915, member: 6729"] I don't know if Archie was a star but him and the Hull's are a generation ago and anyway I didn't see the dads. I think Vlad Jr is behind his dad at this point. Marvin Jr probably won't have as good a QB but I am pretty sure hes ahead of where his HOF dad was at the end of his SU career. So he's kind of the only one ahead of his dad but he still has to go do it in the pros of course. I'm obviously not counting Steph and Klay's dads as stars. I actually sat next to a lady who was Marvins ex wife at a dive bar in Vegas. DIdn't know until the bartender told me after she left. I guess it was probably his mom. [/QUOTE]