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Message: [QUOTE="PhatOrange, post: 1982688, member: 229"] I think Black/Coleman are further ahead than pretty much any defensive end since Freeney. Not all of them (Ron Thompson) but most. Chandler, Josh Thomas, Maronivich, Sharpe, These two have shown as much or more at the same age than any of them. Chandler Jones didn’t even play until his Sophomore year and finished with 10 career sacks. Josh Thomas 9. Both had a lot of tackles but did nothing until their sophomore years. Thomas played as a true frosh but broke his foot. Sharpe played in 10 games as a true frosh and had 6 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks.. Finished his career with 14.5 sacks (7 of them as a senior). thats good. But never had more than 20 tackles until his senior year either (39). As true freshman (playing when they shouldn't be) -Coleman had 29 tackles 1 sack -Black had 21 tackles and 1.5 sacks I would expect their production to take off next season. [/QUOTE]