winning gaining 6.2 ypp and giving up 9.7 ypp

[Millhouse]

One other team has won a game like that since 2000

The Devito experiment killed the yards per play on offense, I know.

7.1 yards per play with Dungey, 3.33 with Devito. OOF

If they maintained that 7.1 yards per play instead of switching to Devito, they would've ended up with 639 yards. And that is assuming that they'd have the same number of plays, which is a bad assumption with the 3 and outs. If they had 10 more plays, it would've been 710 yards.

The thing that scares me the most about playing devito is if he's so *not* ready that they felt like they needed to get him time. If they were more confident in him, maybe they wouldn't feel like they needed to force him in

 

[kcsu]

Bees correctly pointed out that ED was banged up so with a big lead it made sense to get Tommy some run. The problem came in the 3rd Quarter when the same Alien that got to Custis took over Dinos brain and temporarily turned him into a stubborn meathead.

 

[Chip]

When you watch again though, it's as if they went with the 2nd string OL too. Dungey had time to make those throws to Custis. DeVito had to escape quickly if he wanted to. It really did look like we got a big lead, got the backup QB some run, and so everyone just started coasting, thinking about the next few weeks.

 

[upperdeck]

sometimes yds ppp dont really tell the story

Devito drive 1
1yd run, inc pass, 11 yd run 1st down
9 yd run, 2 yd run 1st down
inc pass, holding, 7 yd pass,
so on 3rd and long we blocked 7 on 4 and took a sack
this also includes the 48 yd pass called back

1st drive 7 plays 30 yds 2 1st downs then a sack

drive 2
11 yd pass and fumble

drive 3
pass for 2, screwed up play loss of 2, inc pass

drive 4
5 plays 43 yds and then he got stepped on one simple handoff that was going to be a 1st down
so two 1st downs

so in reality his 1st drive would have been 3 1st downs and the ball inside the 20
2nd drive a 1st down and a fumble
4th drive 2 1st downs and a fall down

1 bad drive and crossed midfield 3 times.

 

[CuseCrew08]

When you watch again though, it's as if they went with the 2nd string OL too. Dungey had time to make those throws to Custis. DeVito had to escape quickly if he wanted to. It really did look like we got a big lead, got the backup QB some run, and so everyone just started coasting, thinking about the next few weeks.

Do you think the WMU Defense saw we had someone other than Dungey in and thought: we can pin our ears back now?

 

[upperdeck]

Devito moved the ball fine. we didnt finish the series and had 1 bad one

 

[Cusefan69]

It’s rare that a frosh, soph or redshirt can come in without having had some gamesnaps at some point and be completely successful. I would expect to see Devito to continue to get more game reps at times given ED injury history and EDs ongoing play style which I love but clearly falls under high risk, high reward category.

 

[Chip]

Do you think the WMU Defense saw we had someone other than Dungey in and thought: we can pin our ears back now?

It's just that easy? I hope Dungey stays another 50 years.

 

[PAcuse]

Our ypp also dropped pretty quickly in the 4th quarter when we where running out the clock, BUT it was a huge drop when Devito got in. Not saying it was Devito's fault as alot of odd things happened just very odd.

 

[upperdeck]

the 2 sacks killed it it went from 5+ to 3 with just those 2 plays.

 

[SmilinBob]

It's just that easy? I hope Dungey stays another 50 years.

Chip, if you're a DC and the starting QB goes out in the 2nd quarter and a RS Frosh comes in never playing a down and you are the home team....wouldn't you change your D to be more aggressive? I certainly would

 

[Chip]

Chip, if you're a DC and the starting QB goes out in the 2nd quarter and a RS Frosh comes in never playing a down and you are the home team...wouldn't you change your D to be more aggressive? I certainly would

Of course, but we're incapable of adjusting after 4 drives?

Go back and look at some of the plays. Roberts beat easily by DT, leads to hold. DE runs right around Martin. It wasn't like it was crazy blitzes that no one could figure out. OL just looked really bad during that stretch.

 

[blizz]

To my eye it's less about Devito and more about the other 10 guys. Something changed in the attitude of most of the other guys on the field and it showed up on both sides of the ball. Focus on the stats all you want, they tell a clear story. I'm telling you, that's not the real story.

 

[SmilinBob]

Of course, but we're incapable of adjusting after 4 drives?

Go back and look at some of the plays. Roberts beat easily by DT, leads to hold. DE runs right around Martin. It wasn't like it was crazy blitzes that no one could figure out. OL just looked really bad during that stretch.

I agree with that, I was answering your point about "It's just that easy?" The OL failed to not only to step up but to execute period.

 

[Millhouse]

sometimes yds ppp dont really tell the story

Devito drive 1
1yd run, inc pass, 11 yd run 1st down
9 yd run, 2 yd run 1st down
inc pass, holding, 7 yd pass,
so on 3rd and long we blocked 7 on 4 and took a sack
this also includes the 48 yd pass called back

1st drive 7 plays 30 yds 2 1st downs then a sack

drive 2
11 yd pass and fumble

drive 3
pass for 2, screwed up play loss of 2, inc pass

drive 4
5 plays 43 yds and then he got stepped on one simple handoff that was going to be a 1st down
so two 1st downs

so in reality his 1st drive would have been 3 1st downs and the ball inside the 20
2nd drive a 1st down and a fumble
4th drive 2 1st downs and a fall down

1 bad drive and crossed midfield 3 times.

Yeah they screwed up a bunch which is why they had a bad per play average. That is how it usually goes.

 

[All4SU]

When you watch again though, it's as if they went with the 2nd string OL too. Dungey had time to make those throws to Custis. DeVito had to escape quickly if he wanted to. It really did look like we got a big lead, got the backup QB some run, and so everyone just started coasting, thinking about the next few weeks.

I’m sure WMU decided to change their pressure when a freshman QB came in.

 

[anomander]

Bees correctly pointed out that ED was banged up so with a big lead it made sense to get Tommy some run. The problem came in the 3rd Quarter when the same Alien that got to Custis took over Dinos brain and temporarily turned him into a stubborn meathead.

That’s an opinion. I certainly don’t think that was the case. I think Dino was just dead set on getting DeVito some serie and was looking for any opportunity.

 

[reedny]

Chip, if you're a DC and the starting QB goes out in the 2nd quarter and a RS Frosh comes in never playing a down and you are the home team...wouldn't you change your D to be more aggressive? I certainly would

They did. They started blitzing. DeVito hung in there with a couple of decent designed runs and a sweet pass over the middle. But then, as our D disappeared and the Mo changed over to WMU, he couldn't dig out. He completed a risky roll out pass to Custis, but broke the pocket unnecessarily or waited too long when he should have rolled out. Some of that was clearly our WR's running the wrong routes are failing to get separation - for example he had two ugly incompletions to Butler. Overall, I think he looked good for being thrown into the fire ... rusty and inconsistent but better than expected quickness and a promising arm. He's not the one-man-show ground threat that ED is. But with a better supporting cast, he'll be dangerous.