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This season I will once again be charting Syracuse’s games in terms of “winning plays”. I look at the results of each play and decide which team got the minimum they wanted out of the play. Rather than making instinctive judgments, I use a formula:
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 25 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 20 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent.
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so I wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting team has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
I have decided to list the “Big Plays” at the bottom of each team’s summary. A big play is a play from scrimmage of over 20 yards, (or 20+ yards lost), kickoff returns of +25 yards, punt returns of +20, blocked kicks, missed kicks, and turnovers on fumbles, interceptions and downs.
When Syracuse had the ball:
Drive Starts: Syr20, Syr6, Syr25, Syr36, Syr24, Syr19, Pur40, Syr19, Syr25, Syr13, Pur39, Syr18 = 326/12 = Syr27 with 874 yards to go.
KO: Pur25, Pur25, Pur25, Pur25, Pur25, Pur25
Total: Syracuse 6 Purdue 0
P: 20 to Pur43, 27 to Pur42(p), 40 to Pur30
Total: Syracuse 1 Purdue 2
FG: No Good from 44
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 1
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 5 Purdue 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 12 Purdue 3
1r: 1, -1, 1, 20, 3TD, 1, 0, 14(p), 0, 2TD, 2, 8, 8, 2, 0, 1TD, 3, 2, 6, 28TD, 6, 21, -1(v)
Total: Syracuse 12 Purdue 9
1p: 8, 6, I, 9, I, 0, I, I, 34, I, -1(s), INTERCEPTION, I
Total: Syracuse 4 Purdue 9
First Down Total: Syracuse 16 Purdue 18
2r: 1(5), 13(9), 13, 4(8), -1, 0, 3(8), 5(4), 39(4)
Total: Syracuse 5 Purdue 4
2p: 13(9), I, 9, 5(2), 27(4), I, I, 26, 6, 2, I, 7(11), I
Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 6
Second Down Total: Syracuse 12 Purdue 10
3r: 15, 35TD, 10(8), 4(4), 4(2)
Total: Syracuse 5 Purdue 0
3p: 9(16), I, -11(s), -1(s), 10(4), 26(11), I
Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 5
Third Down Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 5
4r: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 0
4p: -5(s)
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 1
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 22 Purdue 13
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 13 Purdue 21
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 35 Purdue 34
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -5, -4, +15, +15, +12, +15 Syracuse Purdue
Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 53 Purdue 38
Big Plays: (13) Pur FUMBLE, 27yd pass, Pur FUMBLE, 35 yard TD run, 26yd pass, Pur FUMBLE, 20yd run, 34 yd pass, Pur INTERCEPTION, 26yd pass, 28 yd pass, 39yd run, 21yd run
When Purdue had the ball:
Drive Starts: Pur43, Pur25, Pur42, Pur25, Pur26, Pur25, Pur25, Pur34, Pur25, Pur30, Pur25 = 325/11 = Pur30 with 775 yards to go.
KO: Syr20, Syr24, Syr25, Syr13
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 4
P: 45 to Syr25, 43 to Syr43
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 2
FG: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 0
XP: Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 3
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 9
1r: 3, 1, 9, 10, 5, 3, 9, FUMBLE, 2, 0, 2, -3, 2, 6, 7(15), 4(5), 1TD, 5
Total: Syracuse 9 Purdue 9
1p: 17, -1, 39(p), 2TD, 5, I, 27(p), 7, INTERCEPTION, I, I, I, 21, I, I, 18, 10, 14, 9, I
Total: Syracuse 9 Purdue 11
First Down Total: Syracuse 18 Purdue 20
2r: 0, 0, 2(1), 1(8), 5TD, 0, 10(8)
Total: Syracuse 3 Purdue 4
2p: 1(7), 5(9), 6(11), FUMBLE(s), I, I, 23(15), 17(8), 5(3), 11, -9(s), 2, ((7), 15(8), 7, 4(5), I, I
Total: Syracuse 8 Purdue 9
Second Down Total: Syracuse 11 Purdue 13
3r: 9(8), 1(3), 3(4), 0
Total: Syracuse 3 Purdue 1
3p: 11(6), 5(4), I, 20(7), 11(5), 11(19), 6(20)
Total: Syracuse 4 Purdue 3
Third Down Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 4
4r: FUMBLE
Total: Syracuse 1 Purdue 0
4p: 6(2), I, I
Total: Syracuse 2 Purdue 1
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 3 Purdue 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 16 Purdue 14
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 23 Purdue 24
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 39 Purdue 38
Penalties not tacked on to plays: +15, -5, +15, -10, +15, +14, -10 Syracuse 4 Purdue 3
Game total when Purdue had the ball: Syracuse 96 Purdue 88
Big Plays: (7) 20yd pass, 39yd pass, Syr missed field goal, 23yd pass, Syr INTERCEPTION, 21yd pass, 28yd run(p)
Comments: It was quite a battle between the Purdue offense and the Syracuse defense: first down runs were 9-9, passes 9-11, second down runs 3-4, passes 8-9, third down runs 3-1, passes 4-3, fourth down runs 1-0, passes 2-1. But put a combined 10-5 on third and fourth down plays with 4 turnovers, (plus a couple more that should have been ours), and I think we have a winner. Our offense was 7-6 on third and fourth down with one, (disputed), turnover and we had 13 big plays to 7, (9 to 5 offensive plays).
Of the penalties NOT tacked on to plays, there were just three that were 5 yarders, (one was 4 due to proximity to the goal) and 11 were 10 or 15 yarders. It was a physical game, (at least according to the refs).
I encountered this sequence in multiple play-by-pays, right after the play where Purdue got to keep the ball because a guy with his foot out of bounds touched the ball:
1st & 10 at SYR 26
(11:52 - 4th) Devin Mockobee run for 6 yds to the SYR 20 Devin Mockobee fumbled, recovered by PUR Deion Burks
2nd & 4 at SYR 20
(11:52 - 4th) Devin Mockobee run for no gain to the SYR 20
3rd & 4 at SYR 20
(11:52 - 4th) Hudson Card run for 3 yds to the SYR 17
1st & 10 at SYR 17
(11:52 - 4th) Purdue Penalty, False Start (-5 Yards) to the SYR 22
How did Hudson Card run for 3 yards on 3rd and 4 and wind up with a first down? Purdue got their last touchdown off of that. (I just credited him with the 3 yards and left it at that.)
This was a +8 game, (96 plays won by Syracuse – 88 by Purdue). Here are the five most similar games in the Babers Era:
2016 Boston College 93-84 = +9
2017 Central Michigan 107-100 = +7
2019 Wake Forest 118-111 = +7
2021 Boston College 86-79 = +7
2022 Purdue 99-92 = +7
SU and Purdue seem to be a good match for each other.
- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 25 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 20 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent.
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so I wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting team has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.
I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.
I have decided to list the “Big Plays” at the bottom of each team’s summary. A big play is a play from scrimmage of over 20 yards, (or 20+ yards lost), kickoff returns of +25 yards, punt returns of +20, blocked kicks, missed kicks, and turnovers on fumbles, interceptions and downs.
When Syracuse had the ball:
Drive Starts: Syr20, Syr6, Syr25, Syr36, Syr24, Syr19, Pur40, Syr19, Syr25, Syr13, Pur39, Syr18 = 326/12 = Syr27 with 874 yards to go.
KO: Pur25, Pur25, Pur25, Pur25, Pur25, Pur25
Total: Syracuse 6 Purdue 0
P: 20 to Pur43, 27 to Pur42(p), 40 to Pur30
Total: Syracuse 1 Purdue 2
FG: No Good from 44
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 1
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 5 Purdue 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 12 Purdue 3
1r: 1, -1, 1, 20, 3TD, 1, 0, 14(p), 0, 2TD, 2, 8, 8, 2, 0, 1TD, 3, 2, 6, 28TD, 6, 21, -1(v)
Total: Syracuse 12 Purdue 9
1p: 8, 6, I, 9, I, 0, I, I, 34, I, -1(s), INTERCEPTION, I
Total: Syracuse 4 Purdue 9
First Down Total: Syracuse 16 Purdue 18
2r: 1(5), 13(9), 13, 4(8), -1, 0, 3(8), 5(4), 39(4)
Total: Syracuse 5 Purdue 4
2p: 13(9), I, 9, 5(2), 27(4), I, I, 26, 6, 2, I, 7(11), I
Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 6
Second Down Total: Syracuse 12 Purdue 10
3r: 15, 35TD, 10(8), 4(4), 4(2)
Total: Syracuse 5 Purdue 0
3p: 9(16), I, -11(s), -1(s), 10(4), 26(11), I
Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 5
Third Down Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 5
4r: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 0
4p: -5(s)
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 1
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 22 Purdue 13
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 13 Purdue 21
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 35 Purdue 34
Penalties not tacked on to plays: -5, -4, +15, +15, +12, +15 Syracuse Purdue
Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 53 Purdue 38
Big Plays: (13) Pur FUMBLE, 27yd pass, Pur FUMBLE, 35 yard TD run, 26yd pass, Pur FUMBLE, 20yd run, 34 yd pass, Pur INTERCEPTION, 26yd pass, 28 yd pass, 39yd run, 21yd run
When Purdue had the ball:
Drive Starts: Pur43, Pur25, Pur42, Pur25, Pur26, Pur25, Pur25, Pur34, Pur25, Pur30, Pur25 = 325/11 = Pur30 with 775 yards to go.
KO: Syr20, Syr24, Syr25, Syr13
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 4
P: 45 to Syr25, 43 to Syr43
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 2
FG: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 0
XP: Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 3
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 0 Purdue 9
1r: 3, 1, 9, 10, 5, 3, 9, FUMBLE, 2, 0, 2, -3, 2, 6, 7(15), 4(5), 1TD, 5
Total: Syracuse 9 Purdue 9
1p: 17, -1, 39(p), 2TD, 5, I, 27(p), 7, INTERCEPTION, I, I, I, 21, I, I, 18, 10, 14, 9, I
Total: Syracuse 9 Purdue 11
First Down Total: Syracuse 18 Purdue 20
2r: 0, 0, 2(1), 1(8), 5TD, 0, 10(8)
Total: Syracuse 3 Purdue 4
2p: 1(7), 5(9), 6(11), FUMBLE(s), I, I, 23(15), 17(8), 5(3), 11, -9(s), 2, ((7), 15(8), 7, 4(5), I, I
Total: Syracuse 8 Purdue 9
Second Down Total: Syracuse 11 Purdue 13
3r: 9(8), 1(3), 3(4), 0
Total: Syracuse 3 Purdue 1
3p: 11(6), 5(4), I, 20(7), 11(5), 11(19), 6(20)
Total: Syracuse 4 Purdue 3
Third Down Total: Syracuse 7 Purdue 4
4r: FUMBLE
Total: Syracuse 1 Purdue 0
4p: 6(2), I, I
Total: Syracuse 2 Purdue 1
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 3 Purdue 1
Total on running plays: Syracuse 16 Purdue 14
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 23 Purdue 24
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 39 Purdue 38
Penalties not tacked on to plays: +15, -5, +15, -10, +15, +14, -10 Syracuse 4 Purdue 3
Game total when Purdue had the ball: Syracuse 96 Purdue 88
Big Plays: (7) 20yd pass, 39yd pass, Syr missed field goal, 23yd pass, Syr INTERCEPTION, 21yd pass, 28yd run(p)
Comments: It was quite a battle between the Purdue offense and the Syracuse defense: first down runs were 9-9, passes 9-11, second down runs 3-4, passes 8-9, third down runs 3-1, passes 4-3, fourth down runs 1-0, passes 2-1. But put a combined 10-5 on third and fourth down plays with 4 turnovers, (plus a couple more that should have been ours), and I think we have a winner. Our offense was 7-6 on third and fourth down with one, (disputed), turnover and we had 13 big plays to 7, (9 to 5 offensive plays).
Of the penalties NOT tacked on to plays, there were just three that were 5 yarders, (one was 4 due to proximity to the goal) and 11 were 10 or 15 yarders. It was a physical game, (at least according to the refs).
I encountered this sequence in multiple play-by-pays, right after the play where Purdue got to keep the ball because a guy with his foot out of bounds touched the ball:
1st & 10 at SYR 26
(11:52 - 4th) Devin Mockobee run for 6 yds to the SYR 20 Devin Mockobee fumbled, recovered by PUR Deion Burks
2nd & 4 at SYR 20
(11:52 - 4th) Devin Mockobee run for no gain to the SYR 20
3rd & 4 at SYR 20
(11:52 - 4th) Hudson Card run for 3 yds to the SYR 17
1st & 10 at SYR 17
(11:52 - 4th) Purdue Penalty, False Start (-5 Yards) to the SYR 22
How did Hudson Card run for 3 yards on 3rd and 4 and wind up with a first down? Purdue got their last touchdown off of that. (I just credited him with the 3 yards and left it at that.)
This was a +8 game, (96 plays won by Syracuse – 88 by Purdue). Here are the five most similar games in the Babers Era:
2016 Boston College 93-84 = +9
2017 Central Michigan 107-100 = +7
2019 Wake Forest 118-111 = +7
2021 Boston College 86-79 = +7
2022 Purdue 99-92 = +7
SU and Purdue seem to be a good match for each other.