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Winning Plays (Clemson)

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This season I will once again be charting Syracuse’s games in terms of “winning plays”. I look at the results of each play and decide which team got the minimum they wanted out of the play. Rather than making instinctive judgments, I use a formula:

- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 20 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 15 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent. .
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so i wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting tam has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.

I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a scramble/sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble or a sack as a passing play as the Cuse.com play by play now tells you when it’s either of those two. . 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.

(I’ve used brackets to indicate the end of the first half)

When Syracuse had the ball:

KO: CL 16, CL 17, CL 25, CL 22] [CC 25 CC 25
Total: Syracuse 6 Clemson 0 (1st half: 4-0, 2nd Half: 2-0
P: 46 to CL 40, 54 to CL 13] [ CL 17, 22 to CL 20, 51 to CL 10 + FUMBLE, 28 to CL 20, 61 to CL 6
Total: Syracuse 7 Clemson 0 (1st: 2-0, 2nd: 5-0) Note: two of the punts were failures in the sense that Sterling punted the ball into the end zone rather than getting it within the 10 yard line but I rate all touchbacks as wins for the kicking team because there was no return. The result was not ideal but it was still a ‘win’.
FG: Good from 35, Good from 51] [Good from 32
Total: Syracuse 3 Clemson 0 (1st: 2-0, 2nd: 1-0)
XP: Good] [Good
Total: Syracuse 2 Clemson 0 (1st: 1-0, 2nd: 1-0)
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 18 Clemson 0 (1st: 9-0, 9-0)

1r: 5, 0, 1(2), 9] [1, 2, 1, 3, 6, 6
Total: Syracuse 5 Clemson 5 (1st: 3-1, 2nd: 2-4)
1p: 9, 3, I, 8, I, 7, 12, I, 9, I, 6] [12, 5, 4, 1, -8s
Total: Syracuse 9 Clemson 6 (1st: 6-4, 2nd: 3-2)
First Down Total: Syracuse 14 Clemson 11 (1st: 9-5 2nd: 5-6)
2r: 2(5), 3(10, 1(2), 1TD, 4(1), 5(1), 0] [ 3(5)
Total: Syracuse 6 Clemson 2 (1st: 5-2, 2nd: 1-0)
2p: 18(7), 1(1), -3, -8, 2(3), 0, 11] [ 20(9), I, -5, INTERCEPTION, -3, 17(4), I, I, 13(20)
Total: Syracuse 6 Clemson 10 (1st: 4-3, 2nd: 2-7)
Second Down Total: Syracuse 12 Clemson 12 (1st: 9-5, 2nd: 3-7)
3r: 19(3), -2, 0] [-6, 8(9), 3(4)
Total: Syracuse 1 Clemson 5 (1st: 1-2, 2nd: 0-3)
3p: I, I, 51(5), 31, I] [I, I, I, I
Total: Syracuse 2 Clemson 7 (1st: 2-3, 2nd: 0-4)
Third Down Total: Syracuse 3 Clemson 12 (1st: 3-5, 2nd 0-7)
4r: none] [1TD
Total: Syracuse 1 Clemson 0 (1st: 0-0 2nd: 1-0)
4p: none] [6(17)
Total: Syracuse 0 Clemson 1 (1st: 0-0, 2nd: 0-1)
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Clemson 1 (1st: 0-0, 2nd: 1-1)

Total on running plays: Syracuse 13 Clemson 12 (1st: 9-5, 2nd: 4-7)
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 17 Clemson 24 (1st: 12-10, 2nd: 5-14)
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 30 Clemson 36 (1st: 21-15, 2nd: 9-21)

Penalties not tacked on to plays: -4] [-5, -12 Syracuse 0 Clemson 3 (1st: 0-1, 2nd: 0-2)

Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 48 Clemson 39 (1st: 30-16, 2nd: 18-23)


When Clemson had the ball:

KO: SU 25, SU 25] [SU 25, SU 25, SU 25, SU 25
Total: Syracuse 0 Clemson 6 (1st: 0-2, 2nd: 0-4)
P: 54 to SU 5, 44 to SU 11] [31 to SU 14, 37 to SU 32
Total: Syracuse 1 Clemson 3 (1st: 0-2, 2nd: 1-1)
FG: No Good from 47] [ Good from 43, Good from 37
Total: Syracuse 1 Clemson 2 (1st: 1-0, 2nd: 0-2)
XP: Good] [Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Clemson 3 (1st: 0-1, 2nd: 0-2)
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 2 Clemson 14 (1st: 1-5, 2nd: 1-9)

1r: 15, 4, 9, 2(4), 7, 7, 10] [6, 5, 0, 21, 2, 4, 3, 1, 17, 17, 14, 5, 11, 6, 17, -1, 3(5)
Total: Syracuse 6 Clemson 19 (1st: 1-7, 2nd 5-12)
1p: 19, 8, 9, I, 7, 9, 8(15), -6s, I] [20, 1, 15, I, I
Total: Syracuse 6 Clemson 8 (1st: 3-6, 2nd: 3-2)
First Down Total: Syracuse 12 Clemson 27
2r: 2(1), 5p(9), 1(2), 2(3), 25(3), 1, 9(16), -1] [ 6(4), 3(5), 6, 0, 2(7), 26TD, 3, 8(5), 1(4), 11(5), 2TD
Total: Syracuse 7 Clemson 12 (1st: 3-5, 2nd: 4-7)
2p: I 11(20, 12(10, I, I] [ -3, I, 16(9)
Total: Syracuse 5 Clemson 3 (1st: 3-2, 2nd: 2-1)
Second Down Total: Syracuse 12 Clemson 15
3r: 1TD, 3(1), 8(11)] [2(2), 2(3)
Total: Syracuse 2 Clemson 3 ((1st: 1-2, 2nd: 1-1)
3p: 5(6), I, 5(3), -5s] [ -10s, Interception, 28(8), I, I, -9s
Total: Syracuse 8 Clemson 2 (1st: 3-1, 2nd: 5-1)
Third Down Total: Syracuse 10 Clemson 5 (1st: 4-3, 2nd: 6-2)
4r: 6(3)] [none
Total: Syracuse 0 Clemson 1 (1st: 0-1, 2nd: 0-0)
4p: none] [20(6)
Total: Syracuse 0 Clemson 1 (1st: 0-0, 2nd: 0-1)
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 0 Clemson 2 (1st: 0-1, 2nd: 0-1)

Total on running plays: Syracuse 15 Clemson 35 (1st: 5-15, 2nd: 10-20)
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 19 Clemson 14 (1st: 9-9, 2nd: 10-5)
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 34 Clemson 49 (1st: 14-24, 2nd: 20-25)

Penalties not tacked on to plays: -5] [-5 Syracuse 2 Clemson 0 (1st: 1-0, 2nd: 1-0)

Game total when Clemson had the ball: Syracuse 38 Clemson 63 (1st: 16-29, 2nd: 22-34)

Overall Game Total: Syracuse 86 Clemson 102 (1st: 46-45, 2nd: 40-57)

Comments: We got killed on their first down runs 6-19. And it wasn’t just in the second half: 1-7 in the first half, 5-12 in the second. They ran the ball on first down 25 times and got 135 yards out of it, 5.4 yards per carry. In the first half they had 8 carries for 54 yards (6.75). So it wasn’t just a question of the defense tiring due to second half offensive failures. We were being handled up front from the beginning of the game. Etienne, (7.5 yards per carry) was great but Feaster (4.9) and Choice (6.4) were good, too. They all had huge holes to run through. The Clemson defensive line gets all the publicity but their offensive line won the game for them. They didn’t dominate from the beginning because they were determined to showcase Lawrence and the passing attack. We handled that, (19-14). When Lawrence went down and they had to go to Brice, they went to their real strength and took control of the game, even though it took the entire second half, (minus 41 seconds), to actually take the lead.
 
GAME BY GAME and TOTALS FOR THE YEAR

When SYRACUSE had the ball:

KO: 10-0 + 11-0 + 6-1 + 10-0 + 6-0 = 43-1
P: 4-0 + 1-1 + 4-1 + 4-0 + 7-0 = 20-2
FG: 2-0 + 2-0 + 3-1 + 3-0 + 3-0 = 13-1
XP: 7-0 + 8-0 + 3-0 + 6-0 + 2-0 = 26-0
Kicking plays total: 23-0 + 22-1 + 16-3 + 23-0 + 18-0 = 102-4

1r: 14-16 + 15-7 + 13-13 + 16-7 + 5-5 = 63-48
1p: 3-5 + 9-6 + 6-4 + 11-5 + 9-6 = 38-26
First Down Total: 17-21 + 24-13 + 19-17 + 27-12 + 14-11 = 101-74
2r: 9-6 + 8-5 + 5-8 + 8-3 + 6-2 = 36-24
2p: 5-9 + 5-9 + 6-9 + 4-5 + 6-10 = 26-42
Second Down Total: 14-15 + 13-14 + 11-17 + 12-8 + 12-12= 62-66
3r: 7-6 + 2-0 + 6-5 + 3-1 + 1-5 = 19-17
3p: 1-4 + 5-6 + 4-5 + 1-7 + 2-7 = 13-29
Third Down Total: 8-10 + 7-6 + 10-10 + 4-8 + 3-12 = 32-46
4r: 2-1 + 1-1 + 0-1 + 0-0 + 1-0 = 4-3
4p: 0-0 + 1-0 + 0-0 + 1-0 + 0-1 = 2-1
Fourth Down Total: 2-1 + 2-1 + 0-1 + 1-0 + 1-1= 6-4

Total on running plays: 32-29 + 26-13 + 24-27 + 27-11 +13-12 = 122-92
Total on passing plays: 9-18 + 20-21 + 16-18 + 17-17 + 17-24 = 79-98
Total on plays from scrimmage: 41-47+ 46-34 + 40-45 + 44-28 + 30-36 = 201-190

Penalties not tacked on to plays: 5-2 + 3-5 +3-5+ 0-8 + 0-3 = 11-23

Game total when SYRACUSE had the ball: 69-49 + 71-40 + 59-53 + 67-36 + 48-39 = 314-217


When OPPONENT had the ball:

KO: 6-1 + 3-0 + 1-1 + 2-2 + 0-6 = 12-10
P: 3-2 + 7-1 + 4-5 + 3-7 + 1-3 = 18-18
FG: 1-0 + 0-1 + 0-0 + 0-0 + 1-2 = 2-3
XP: 0-7 + 0-1 + 0-1 + 0-3 + 0-3 = 0-15
Kicking plays total: 10-10 + 10-3 + 5-7 + 5-12 +2-14 = 32-46

1r: 8-7 + 16-4 + 5-4 + 9-10 + 6-19 = 44-44
1p: 10-11 + 6-3 + 10-6 + 4-7 + 6-8 = 36-35
First Down Total: 18-18 + 22-7 + 15-10 + 13-17 + 12-27 = 80-79
2r: 3-6 + 11-3 + 5-1 + 5-6 + 7-12 = 31-28
2p: 5-3 + 4-6 + 10-4 + 6-6 + 5-3 = 30-22
Second Down Total: 8-9 + 15-9 + 15-5 + 11-12 + 12-15 = 61-50
3r: 1-1 + 3-2 + 3-1 + 2-1 + 2-3 = 11-8
3p: 1-5 + 10-3 + 10-0 + 8-3 + 8-2 = 37-13
Third Down Total: 2-6 + 13-5 + 13-1 + 10-4 + 10-5 = 48-21
4r: 0-0 + 1-1 + 0-0 + 0-1 + 0-1 = 1-3
4p: 1-1 + 0-0 + 1-0 + 0-0 + 0-1 = 2-2
Fourth Down Total: 1-1 + 1-1 + 1-0 + 0-1 + 0-2 = 3-5

Total on running plays: 12-14 + 31-10 + 13-6 + 16-18 + 15-35 = 87-83
Total on passing plays: 17-20 + 20-12 + 31-10 + 18-16 + 19-14 = 105-72
Total on plays from scrimmage: 29-34 + 51-22 + 44-16 + 34-34 + 34-49 = 192-155

Penalties not tacked on to plays: 1-3 + 7-0 + 5-1 + 3-1+ 2-0 = 18-5

Game total when OPPONENT had the ball: 40-47, 68-25, 54-24, 42-47+ 38-63 = 242-206

Overall Game Total: 109-96 + 139-65 + 113-77+ 109-83 + 86-102 = 556-423

Comment: The most remarkable thing about this team continues to be the amazing performance of our special teams. 102 of 106 of the plays where we’ve kicked the ball have come out in our favor, compared to 46 of the 78 times the other team has kicked the ball.

Our running game on offense is better than our passing game but our defense has been better against the pass than the run.


HISTORICAL WINNING PLAYS
(Game totals only)

2011
Syracuse 101 Wake Forest 87 = +14
Syracuse 92 Rhode Island 65 = +27
Syracuse 75 Southern California 90 = -15
Syracuse 96 Toledo 88 = +8
Syracuse 103 Rutgers 99 = +4
Syracuse 79 Tulane 99 = -20
Syracuse 90 West Virginia 84 = +6
Syracuse 74 Louisville 83 = -9
Syracuse 84 Connecticut 86 = -2
Syracuse 92 South Florida 106 = -14
Syracuse 83 Cincinnati 104 = -21
Syracuse 87 Pittsburgh 93 = -6
TOTAL: Syracuse 1,056 Opponents 1,117 = -61 We 'won' 5 of 12 games.

2012
Syracuse 105 Northwestern 116 = -11
Syracuse 92 Southern California 98 = -6
Syracuse 93 Stony Brook 82 = +11
Syracuse 82 Minnesota 95 = -13
Syracuse 85 Pittsburgh 76 = +9
Syracuse 93 Rutgers 73 = +20
Syracuse 103 Connecticut 70 = +33
Syracuse 115 South Florida 92 = +23
Syracuse 96 Cincinnati 122 = -26
Syracuse 103 Louisville 86 = +17
Syracuse 92 Missouri 98 = -6
Syracuse 98 Temple 81 = -+17
Syracuse 105 West Virginia 82 +23
TOTAL: Syracuse 1,262 Opponents 1,171 = +91 We 'won' 8 of 13 games.

2013
Syracuse 75 Penn State 113 = -38
Syracuse 92 Northwestern 114 - = -22
Syracuse 115 Wagner 52 = +63
Syracuse 107 Tulane 76 = +31
Syracuse 64 Clemson 136 = -72
Syracuse 111 N C State 85 = +26
Syracuse 46 Georgia Tech 113 = -67
Syracuse 108 Wake Forest 81 = +27
Syracuse 92 Maryland 88 = +4
Syracuse 55 Florida State 104 = -49
Syracuse 80 Pittsburgh 96 = -16
Syracuse 100 Boston College 87 = +13
Syracuse 99 Minnesota 79 +20
TOTAL: Syracuse 1,144 Opponents 1,224 = -80 We 'won' 7 of 13 games.

2014
Syracuse 91 Villanova 103 = -12
Syracuse 99 Central Michigan 76 = +23
Syracuse 91 Maryland 91 = 0
Syracuse 71 Notre Dame 114 = -43
Syracuse 71 Louisville 100 = -29
Syracuse 80 Florida State 101 = -21
Syracuse 86 Wake Forest 77 = +9
Syracuse 75 Clemson 102 = -27
Syracuse 92 N C State 101 = -9
Syracuse 78 Duke 98 = -20
Syracuse 46 Pittsburgh 114 = -68
Syracuse 72 Boston College 78 = -6
TOTAL: Syracuse 952 Opponents 1,155 = -203 We 'won' 2 of 12 games, with one even.

2015
Syracuse 96 Rhode Island 56 = +40
Syracuse 83 Wake Forest 83 = 0
Syracuse 84 Central Michigan 91 = -7
Syracuse 84 Louisiana State 89 = -5
Syracuse 80 South Florida 93 = -13
Syracuse 86 Virginia 97 = -11
Syracuse 70 Pittsburgh 89 = -19
Syracuse 84 Florida State 100 = -16
Syracuse 74 Louisville 110 = -36
Syracuse 83 Clemson 105 = -22
Syracuse 78 North Carolina State 100 = -22
Syracuse 89 Boston College 78 = +11
TOTAL: Syracuse 991 Opponents 1091 = -100 We 'won' 2 of 12 games with one even.

2016
Syracuse 101 Colgate 74 = +27
Syracuse 99 Louisville 132 = -33
Syracuse 95 South Florida 116 = -21
Syracuse 91 Connecticut 99 = -8
Syracuse 98 Notre Dame 111 = -13
Syracuse 72 Wake Forest 101 = -29
Syracuse 103 Virginia Tech 104 = -1
Syracuse 93 Boston College 84 = +9
Syracuse 74 Clemson 120 = -46
Syracuse 71 North Carolina State 103 = -32
Syracuse 71 Florida State 120 = -49
Syracuse 107 Pittsburgh 118 = -11
TOTAL: Syracuse 1075 Opponent 1282 = -207 We 'won' 2 of 12 games.

2017
Syracuse 132 Central Connecticut 65 = +67
Syracuse 104 Middle Tennessee 98 = +6
Syracuse 107 Central Michigan 100 = +7
Syracuse 80 Louisiana State 103 = -23
Syracuse 93 North Carolina State 112 = -19
Syracuse 97 Pittsburgh 96 = +1
Syracuse 95 Clemson 97= -2
Syracuse 86 Miami 119 = -33
Syracuse 90 Florida State 108 = -18
Syracuse 120 Wake Forest 125 = -5
Syracuse 96 Louisville 100 = -4
Syracuse 77 Boston College 87 = -10
TOTAL: Syracuse 1177 Opponents 1210 = -33 We’ve ‘won’ 4 of12 games

2018
Syracuse 109 Western Michigan 96 = +13
Syracuse 139 Wagner 65 = +74
Syracuse 113 Florida State 77 = +36
Syracuse 109 Connecticut 83 = +26
Syracuse 86 Clemson 102 We’ve ‘won’ 4 of 5 games

Totals since 2011: Syracuse has won 8,213 plays, (48.6%) and 33 games, (36.3%). The opposition has won 8,673 plays and 56 games with 2 games even. We’ve seen the opposition obtain their goals on 460 more plays than we have in 91 games, an average of 5.05 plays a game.
 
still had the majority of the running stats were piled up the last couple of drives.

we didnt run much but we were effective enough to win the game, just needed a couple throws back or turn one FG into a TD.. great effort and I agree the oline for clemson was doing great at run blocking most of the game. Its also why while we have our best Dline in a long time we still have a long way to go to catch up to the big boys
 
still had the majority of the running stats were piled up the last couple of drives.

we didnt run much but we were effective enough to win the game, just needed a couple throws back or turn one FG into a TD.. great effort and I agree the oline for clemson was doing great at run blocking most of the game. Its also why while we have our best Dline in a long time we still have a long way to go to catch up to the big boys


That's because they'd totally committed to the run at that time, just passing when necessary. They ran well the whole game. I think it may have more to do with our linebackers than the D-line, although that group is better at pass rushing than run-stopping.
 

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