Winning Plays - CMU | Syracusefan.com

Winning Plays - CMU

SWC75

Bored Historian
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
34,529
Like
67,224
This season I will once again be charting Syracuse’s games in terms of “winning plays”. I look at the results of each play and decide which team got the minimum they wanted out of the play. Rather than making instinctive judgments, I use a formula:

- On first down, the offensive team wants to get at least a third of the way to a new first down: they will have two more plays before they might have to surrender the ball and if they gain that same amount of yards on each of those two plays, they’ll get the first down. If they don’t make it a third of the way to a new first down, the defense won the play.
- On second down, the offense wants to get at least halfway to a new first down by the same logic.
- On third and fourth down, they want to get the first down.
- Penalties, if added onto a play by the referees, are added on to the results above. If the offense gains 5 yards on first down but there was holding and they lost yardage instead, the defense won the play. If a running back made a 20 yard run on first and ten and the holding was 15 yards downfield, turning it into a 5 yard gain, that’s still a win for the offense. If the defense is penalized and it’s tacked on, again the net result is what is evaluated. The penalties I’ve listed negated the play entirely and are a “loss” for the penalized team and thus a win for their opponent. .
- If a penalty was not tacked onto a play, it’s a lost play for the team being penalized. I'll count them separate from the other plays from scrimmage because I don't know if the intended play before the penalty would have been a run or a pass - so i wouldn't know where to put it in the chart below.
- A turnover is, obviously, a win for the team that wound up with the ball.
- On a kick-off a touchback brings the ball out to the 25 yard line. Teams still seem to be trying to kick the ball into the end zone and avoid a runback if they can, so any kick-off that results in the receiving team starting between their goal line and their 25 is a win for the kicking team. Beyond that, the receiving team wins.
- On a punt, a touchback takes the ball out of the 20. So any punt that results in the other team taking over from their goal line to their 20 is a win for the punting team. If the next change in field position is at least 40 yards, the punting tam has also won the play.
- A successful place kick is, obviously, a win for the kicking team.
- Any play that results in a touchdown is, obviously, a win for that team that scores it.
- A “victory play” where a team accepts a loss just to let the clock run out, is a win for the offensive team.

I will indicate in parenthesis how many yards there were to go to get a new first down, (if other than 10), unless it was for no gain or negative yardage. If it was a touchdown, (“TD)” a sack (“S”) a victory play (“V”) or involved a penalty (P). I’ll treat a scramble as a running play, (since it’s not always clear what the intent was), but a sack as a passing play. 1R means first down running plays. 1P means first down passing plays, etc.

When Syracuse had the ball:

KO: CM 35, CM 14, CM 8, CM 21, CM 25, CM 25, CM 35
Total: Syracuse 5 Central Michigan 2
P: 44 to CM 20, 54 to CM 9, 44 to CM 9, 47 to CM 35, 43 to CM 25, 30 to CM 20, 55 to CM 19
Total: Syracuse 7 Central Michigan 0
FG: 41 Good, 25 Good
Total: Syracuse 2 Central Michigan 0
XP: Good, Good, Good, Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 5 Central Michigan 0
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 19 Central Michigan 2

1r: 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 6, 2, -4, 3, 0, 9TD, 1, 1TD, 4, 11, 74, 41, 0, 2, 1, 1, 3, 5
Total: Syracuse 8 Central Michigan 14
1p: 17, 3(20), I, I, I, I, 6, 6TD, 22, I
Total: Syracuse 4 Central Michigan 6
First Down Total: Syracuse 13 Central Michigan 20
2r: 5(8), 3(7), 7(9), 6(15), 1, 71, 5(6), 2, 4(8), 1(9), 4(7), 3
Total: Syracuse 6 Central Michigan 6
2p: I, I, INT, I, I, 13(14), 18(7), 2(4), I, I, 13(14), 18TD, 44, 17(9), I,. I, 9(16)
Total: Syracuse 6 Central Michigan 7
Second Down Total: Syracuse 13 Central Michigan 13
3r: 4(3), FUM, 2(2), 2, 2(9), 2(1), 2, -1
Total: Syracuse 3 Central Michigan 5
3p: 14(17), 10(4), I, I, 9(8), 0, FUM, 11(10), I, 21(2), I
Total: Syracuse 4 Central Michigan 7
Third Down Total: Syracuse 7 Central Michigan 12
4r: 2(1)
Total: Syracuse 1 Central Michigan 0
4p: none
Total: Syracuse 0 Central Michigan 0
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Central Michigan 0

Total on running plays: Syracuse 19 Central Michigan 25
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 14 Central Michigan 20
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 33 Central Michigan 45

Penalties not tacked on to plays: -10, -5, +5, -15, +15, -12, +5 Syracuse 3 Central Michigan 4

Game total when Syracuse had the ball: Syracuse 55 Central Michigan 51

Comments: We got some big plays but 12-20 on first down and 33-45 on scrimmage plays still isn’t very impressive, especially against a MAC team. We’re going to face some of the best defenses in the country and it doesn’t look like we’re likely to have any kind of sustained attack against them. We’ll have to get those big plays. And those big-time defenses will have guys like Amari Coleman.


When Central Michigan had the ball:

KO: SU 42, SU 23, SU 36, CM 32
Total: Syracuse 3 Central Michigan 1
P: 53 to SU 16, 42 to SU 48, 60 to SU 19, 64 to SU 15, 26 to SU 10, 38 to SU 19, 47 to SU 20, 44 to SU 28, 49 to SU 15, 53 to SU 9
Total: Syracuse 0 Central Michigan 10
FG: 30 Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Central Michigan 1
XP: Good, Good
Total: Syracuse 0 Central Michigan 2
Kicking plays total: Syracuse 3 Central Michigan 14

1r: -2, 2, 0, 9, 3, 5, 8, 1, -1, -7, 0, -2, 3, 1, 6, FUM, 12, 12, 11, 8
Total: Syracuse 12 Central Michigan 8
1p: I, 8, INT-TD, I, 17TD, 13, 24, 2, I, I, 6, I, 1, 2, I, I, 24(P)
Total: Syracuse 11 Central Michigan 6
First Down Total: Syracuse 23 Central Michigan 14
2r: 1, -2, 6(2), 7(7), 5(5), -3, 9, 4(8), 0
Total: Syracuse 4 Central Michigan 5
2p: I, I, -2, 19(7), 12(10), 19(9), INT, 40(4), I, 9, I, I, I, I, 2(9), I 24(P)
Total: Syracuse 11 Central Michigan 6
Second Down Total: Syracuse 15 Central Michigan 11
3r: 3(9), 1(1), 0, 0, 1
Total: Syracuse 1 Central Michigan 4
3p: I, 56TD, I, 3(13), I, 8, I, I, I,I, 5(4)
Total: Syracuse 8 Central Michigan 3
Third Down Total: Syracuse 9 Central Michigan 7
4r: 0
Total: Syracuse 1 Central Michigan 0
4p: 9(4)
Total: Syracuse 0 Central Michigan 1
Fourth Down Total: Syracuse 1 Central Michigan 1

Total on running plays: Syracuse 18 Central Michigan 17
Total on passing plays: Syracuse 30 Central Michigan 26
Total on plays from scrimmage: Syracuse 48 Central Michigan 43

Penalties not tacked on to plays: Syracuse 1 Central Michigan 2

Game total when Central Michigan had the ball: Syracuse 51 Central Michigan 59

Overall Game Total: Syracuse 106 Central Michigan 110

Comments: This game was broken open on a burst of big plays by SU, mostly in the third quarter. It was not dominated from play to play. Our defense arguably did more than our offense to close the show, not allowing a second half point. CMU’s last 11 possessions produced nothing on the scoreboard. It was a great game for punts: the two teams were a combined 17-0.

This was a -4 game. These are the closest games to this in terms of plays won and lost:
2011 Syracuse 90 West Virginia 84 = -6 SU won 49-23
2011 Syracuse 84 Connecticut 86 = -2 SU lost 21-28
2012 Syracuse 92 USC 98 = -6 SU lost 29-42
2012 Syracuse 92 Missouri 98 = -6 SU won 31-27
2014 Syracuse 72 Boston College 78 = -6 SU lost 7-28
2015 Syracuse 84 Central Michigan 91 = -7 SU won 30-27 (OT)
2015 Syracuse 84 Louisiana State 89 = -5 SU lost 24-34
2016 Syracuse 103 Virginia Tech 104 = -1 SU won 31-17
With this year’s CMU game, that’s 7 comparable games, of which we’ve won 5. The results vary so much because we didn’t dominate the games from play to play but instead relied on who got the big plays. On Saturday, that was us.
 
GAME BY GAME and TOTALS FOR THE YEAR

When SYRACUSE had the ball:

KO: 8-2 + 5-1 + 5-2 = 18-5
P: 3-0 + 4-1 + 7-0 = 14-1
FG: 3-1 + 3-1 + 2-0 = 8-2
XP: 5-1 + 2-0 + 5-0 = 12-1
Kicking plays total: 19-4 + 14-3 + 19-2= 52-9

1r: 11-11 + 8-14 + 9-14= 28-39
1p: 17-6 + 9-7 + 4-6 = 30-19
First Down Total: 28-17 + 17-21+ 13-20 = 58-58
2r: 6-5 + 3-5 + 7-6 = 16-16
2p: 7-9 + 8-12 + 6-7 = 21-28
Second Down Total: 13-14 + 11-17 +13-13 = 37-44
3r: 3-3 + 6-4 + 3-5 = 12-12
3p: 8-5 + 3-8 + 4-7 = 15-20
Third Down Total: 11-8 + 9-12 + 7-12 = 27-32
4r: 0-0 + 3-0 + 1-0 = 4-0
4p: 1-0 + 0-2 + 0-0 = 1-2
Fourth Down Total: 1-0 + 3-2 + 1-0 = 5-2

Total on running plays: 20-19 + 20-23 + 19-25 = 59-67
Total on passing plays: 33-20 + 20-29 + 14-20 = 67-69
Total on plays from scrimmage: 53-39 + 40-52 + 33-45 = 126-136

Penalties not tacked on to plays: 3-2 + 3-2 + 3-4 = 9-8

Game total when SYRACUSE had the ball: 75-45 + 57-57 + 55-51 = 187-153

Comment: We finally got some big plays and needed them. We are even on first down, (and losing on runs) and losing on second and third downs. We can’t win games on fourth downs.

When OPPONENT had the ball:

KO: 2-0 + 2-3 + 3-1 = 7-4
P: 9-3 + 2-5 + 0-10 = 11-18
FG: 0-0 + 0-0 + 0-1 = 0-1
XP: 0-1 + 0-4 + 0-2 = 0-7
Kicking plays total: 11-4 + 4-12 + 3-14 = 18-30

1r: 8-4 + 11-8 + 12-8 = 31-20
1p: 7-2 + 8-5 + 11-6 = 26-13
First Down Total: 15-6 + 19-13 + 23-14 = 57-33
2r: 6-3 + 6-4 + 4-5 = 16-12
2p: 7-3 + 6-8 + 11-6 = 24-17
Second Down Total: 13-6 + 12-12 + 15-11 = 40-29
3r: 7-0 + 3-0 + 1-4 = 11-4
3p: 8-1 + 6-3 + 8-3 = 22-7
Third Down Total: 15-1 + 9-3 + 9-7 = 33-11
4r: 0-0 + 0-0 + 1-0 = 1-0
4p: 0-1 + 1-0 + 0-1 = 1-2
Fourth Down Total: 0-1 + 1-0 + 1-1 = 2-2

Total on running plays: 21-7 + 20-12 + 18-17 = 59-36
Total on passing plays: 22-7 + 21-16 + 30-26 = 73-49
Total on plays from scrimmage: 43-14 + 41-28 + 48-43 = 132-85

Penalties not tacked on to plays: 3-2 + 2-1 + 1-2 = 6-5

Game total when OPPONENT had the ball: 57-20 + 47-41 + 51-59 = 155-120

Overall Game Total: 132-65 + 104-98 + 106-110 = 342-273

Comment: Our numbers are excellent on defense because we were consistently great vs. CCS and occasionally good vs. MTS. It was when we occasionally bad that left us at 1-1. That continued in the first half vs. CMU but then we clamped down to shut them out in the last 11 possession to go 2-1.


HISTORICAL WINNING PLAYS
(Game totals only- games we ‘won’ are in bold, games tied in italics.)

2011
Syracuse 101 Wake Forest 87 = +14
Syracuse 92 Rhode Island 65 = +27

Syracuse 75 USC 90 = -15
Syracuse 96 Toledo 88 = +8
Syracuse 103 Rutgers 99 = +4

Syracuse 79 Tulane 99 = -20
Syracuse 90 West Virginia 84 = -6
Syracuse 74 Louisville 83 = -9
Syracuse 84 Connecticut 86 = -2
Syracuse 92 South Florida 106 = -14
Syracuse 83 Cincinnati 104 = -21
Syracuse 87 Pittsburgh 93 = -6
TOTAL: Syracuse 1,056 Opponents 1,117 = -61 We 'won' 4 of 12 games.

2012
Syracuse 105 Northwestern 116 = -11
Syracuse 92 USC 98 = -6
Syracuse 93 Stony Brook 82 = +11
Syracuse 82 Minnesota 95 = -13
Syracuse 85 Pittsburgh 76 = +9
Syracuse 93 Rutgers 73 = +20
Syracuse 103 Connecticut 70 = +33
Syracuse 115 South Florida 92 = +23

Syracuse 96 Cincinnati 122 = -26
Syracuse 103 Louisville 86 = +17
Syracuse 92 Missouri 98 = -6
Syracuse 98 Temple 81 = -+17
Syracuse 105 West Virginia 82 +23

TOTAL: Syracuse 1,262 Opponents 1,171 = +91 We 'won' 8 of 13 games.

2013
Syracuse 75 Penn State 113 = -38
Syracuse 92 Northwestern 114 - = 22
Syracuse 115 Wagner 52 = +63
Syracuse 107 Tulane 76 = +31

Syracuse 64 Clemson 136 = -72
Syracuse 111 N C State 85 = +26
Syracuse 46 Georgia Tech 113 = -67
Syracuse 108 Wake Forest 81 = +27
Syracuse 92 Maryland 88 = +4

Syracuse 55 Florida State 104 = -49
Syracuse 80 Pittsburgh 96 = -16
Syracuse 100 Boston College 87 = +13
Syracuse 99 Minnesota 79 +20

TOTAL: Syracuse 1,144 Opponents 1,224 = -80 We 'won' 7 of 13 games.

2014
Syracuse 91 Villanova 103 = -12
Syracuse 99 Central Michigan 76 = +23
Syracuse 91 Maryland 91 = 0
Syracuse 71 Notre Dame 114 = -43
Syracuse 71 Louisville 100 = -29
Syracuse 80 Florida State 101 = -21
Syracuse 86 Wake Forest 77 = +9
Syracuse 75 Clemson 102 = -27
Syracuse 92 N C State 101 = -9
Syracuse 78 Duke 98 = -20
Syracuse 46 Pittsburgh 114 = -68
Syracuse 72 Boston College 78 = -6
TOTAL: Syracuse 952 Opponents 1,155 = -203 We 'won' 2 of 12 games, with one even.

2015
Syracuse 96 Rhode Island 56 = +40
Syracuse 83 Wake Forest 83 = 0
Syracuse 84 Central Michigan 91 = -7
Syracuse 84 Louisiana State 89 = -5
Syracuse 80 South Florida 93 = -13
Syracuse 86 Virginia 97 = -11
Syracuse 70 Pittsburgh 89 = -19
Syracuse 84 Florida State 100 = -16
Syracuse 74 Louisville 110 = -36
Syracuse 83 Clemson 105 = -22
Syracuse 78 North Carolina State 100 = -22
Syracuse 89 Boston College 78 = +11
TOTAL: Syracuse 991 Opponents 1091 = -100 We 'won' 2 of 12 games with one even.

2016
Syracuse 101 Colgate 74 = +27
Syracuse 99 Louisville 132 = -33
Syracuse 95 South Florida 116 = -21
Syracuse 91 Connecticut 99 = -8
Syracuse 98 Notre Dame 111 = -13
Syracuse 72 Wake Forest 101 = -29
Syracuse 103 Virginia Tech 104 = -1
Syracuse 93 Boston College 84 = +9
Syracuse 74 Clemson 120 = -46
Syracuse 71 North Carolina State 103 = -32
Syracuse 71 Florida State 120 = -49
Syracuse 107 Pittsburgh 118 = -11
TOTAL: Syracuse 1075 Opponent 1282 = -207 We 'won' 2 of 12 games.

2017
Syracuse 132 Central Connecticut 65 = +67
Syracuse 104 Middle Tennessee 98 = +6

Syracuse 106 Central Michigan 110 = -4
TOTAL: Syracuse 342 Opponents 273 = +69 We’ve ‘won’ 2 of 3 games

Totals since 2011: Syracuse has won 6,822 plays, (48.3%) and 27 games, (35.5%). The opposition has won 7,313 plays and 47 games with 2 games even. We’ve seen the opposition obtain their goals on 491 more plays than we have in 76 games, an average of 6.5 plays a game.
 
Last edited:

Forum statistics

Threads
172,237
Messages
5,005,044
Members
6,024
Latest member
shoresy

Online statistics

Members online
232
Guests online
1,410
Total visitors
1,642


...
Top Bottom