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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 382434"] I like the concept. I think you should add a Push. For instance the average yards per play nationally is 5.77 so getting 5 yards on 1st down should be a push not a win for the O. Getting a below average play should never be a win for the O. Why not go with: 1st down <5 D wins 5 Push >5 O wins 2nd down O wins if they get a first down or >5 yards. Push if it is a 5 yard play and not a 1st down. D wins if <5 yards and not a first down. 3rd down O wins if they get a first down. D wins if it is not a first down. What would be the score in that case? [/QUOTE]