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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4222134, member: 5685"] If you go back to 1980 then you have to move a few teams ahead of SU in my list. UNC gets a title and also another NCG which makes UNC vs Duke this year the tie breaker for #1 Kentucky gets another FF Louisville gets another title plus another 2 FFs which would move them up to 5th Indiana gets another title moving ahead of SU to 8th UCLA gets another NCG moving ahead of SU SU goes down to #13 Georgetown gets a title and another title game too which moves them 14th right behind us UNLV falls out [/QUOTE]