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Message: [QUOTE="OrlandoCuse, post: 178683, member: 115"] The problem is that you are still basing it off of Pitt's preseason expectations. Even when Woodall was healthy, they still weren't dominating teams. They missed alot without Woodall, but he's not responsible for 8 losses in a row. They had some very bad losses in there to very weak teams (Depaul, Rutgers). They will be a tough team to evaluate if they get to 9-9 in the BE, but I think they need to get to at least 9-9 with some wins over the likes of UConn and Lville to even be considered. You can't completely eliminate their horrific performance in the middle of the season and just act like it never happened. Giving them a 4 or 5 seed would require that type of special treatment. [/QUOTE]