Would a college basketball champions league work

[Alsacs]

Thinking of a way to improve college basketball. What if the NCAA allowed a champions league during its basketball season to reward teams for success and have additional meaningful basketball games during the college season.

NCAA could sell the games for another TV contract and generate revenue and we fans would see cool games.

Their are 34 conferences like the UEFA(European soccer governing body) Champions league each conference would get 1 bid and then the better conferences would get more bids. You would seed the teams in different pots and have a draw to get completely different matchups. 64 teams total into 16 groups.

Teams would play the 3 other teams in their group and then the top team or two top teams would advance and then you would keep having draws matching teams up until you got 2 teams. This type of tournament would be ongoing during the regular season and would make games interesting throughout the season. Leading until the actual NCAA tournament in March. Instead, of saying a bunch of creampuffs on the non-conference schedules their would be actually appealing games for the 64 teams that qualified each year for the champions league and it would conference games matter throughout the season to try and qualify for the next year's competition

Multi-bid Leagues (25 total spots)

Big Ten (4): Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State

ACC (4): Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, North Carolina

Big 12 (3): Kansas, , Oklahoma, Iowa State

American Athletic(3): Louisville, Connecticut, Cincinnati

Big East(3): Providence, Villanova, Creighton

SEC (2): Florida, Kentucky,

Pac-12 (2): Arizona, UCLA,

Mountain West (2): New Mexico, San Diego State

Atlantic 10 (2): Saint Louis, VCU

The other 23 conferences get one bid each, given to their regular-season champion from last season. So you'd also have Gonzaga, Wichita State. Harvard and other known smaller-conference entities in the mix. You actually make the college regular season matter a lot more.

 

[CU44SE]

Only way this has a chance is if for some reason the P5 cedes away from the NCAA and the NCAA tournament no longer takes place like it once did. In that instance however, how do you say last years champion of a smaller league gets the bid when that team usually loaded with seniors and have to rebuild the next year? Its not like in soccer or professional sports where your replacing 1 or 2 players each year, these teams are usually replacing their best players which completely changes their team.

 

[Cusefannotindc]

I think someone posted this idea last year. But essentially the NCAA tournament is the Champions league.

 

[Alsacs]

This Champions league tournament would be during the season and would get good matchups for TV and make the regular season in each conference matter more, and would create an additional trophy to compete for in addition to just the NCAA tournament. Their is nothing more boring for me anyway is a regular season basketball game that isn't against a rival and during conference when your team has already locked up an NCAA tournament bid. If you are on the bubble all the games are interesting, but what is the difference most of the time between being a 2 seed or 3 seed or a 5 seed or 6 seed. If you had Champions league basketball games throughout the regular season it would make those games interesting because they would be against good competition for the most part. How cool would it be for Belmont to get Kentucky into their arena for a Champions league first round basketball game or Syracuse going into Florida Gulf Coast. This idea would be to expand the college game.

I get teams change from year to year, but rewarding teams with a champions like additional tournament would reward smaller schools with recruiting advantages and raise college basketball all around.

 

[RandygoCuse]

Thinking of a way to improve college basketball. What if the NCAA allowed a champions league during its basketball season to reward teams for success and have additional meaningful basketball games during the college season.

NCAA could sell the games for another TV contract and generate revenue and we fans would see cool games.

Their are 34 conferences like the UEFA(European soccer governing body) Champions league each conference would get 1 bid and then the better conferences would get more bids. You would seed the teams in different pots and have a draw to get completely different matchups. 64 teams total into 16 groups.

Teams would play the 3 other teams in their group and then the top team or two top teams would advance and then you would keep having draws matching teams up until you got 2 teams. This type of tournament would be ongoing during the regular season and would make games interesting throughout the season. Leading until the actual NCAA tournament in March. Instead, of saying a bunch of creampuffs on the non-conference schedules their would be actually appealing games for the 64 teams that qualified each year for the champions league and it would conference games matter throughout the season to try and qualify for the next year's competition

Multi-bid Leagues (25 total spots)

Big Ten (4): Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State

ACC (4): Virginia, Duke, Syracuse, North Carolina

Big 12 (3): Kansas, , Oklahoma, Iowa State

American Athletic(3): Louisville, Connecticut, Cincinnati

Big East(3): Providence, Villanova, Creighton

SEC (2): Florida, Kentucky,

Pac-12 (2): Arizona, UCLA,

Mountain West (2): New Mexico, San Diego State

Atlantic 10 (2): Saint Louis, VCU

The other 23 conferences get one bid each, given to their regular-season champion from last season. So you'd also have Gonzaga, Wichita State. Harvard and other known smaller-conference entities in the mix. You actually make the college regular season matter a lot more.

I like the idea of giving the one-bid conferences to the regular-season champ. That way, if they don't make the tourney, at least next year they get more exposure and the chance to grab an at large bid.

 

[cpatrocks]

I was thinking of a champions league like in golf. 40+ players from their school. Would be fun to watch Coleman, Moten and Pearl play "for real" again.

 

[Alsacs]

A champions league like golf would be funny. It would be for only players that left eligibility when they went to NBA.

 

[Alsacs]

34 automatic qualifiers

America East-Vermont
American Athletic-Cincinnati
A-10-Saint Louis
ACC-Virginia
Atlantic Sun-Mercer
Big XII-Kansas
Big East-Villanova
Big Sky-Weber State
Big South-High Point
Big Ten-Michigan
Big West- UC Irvine
Colonial- Delaware
CUSA- Tulsa
Horizon-UW Green Bay
Ivy-Harvard
MAAC- Iona
MAC- Buffalo
MEAC-North Carolina Central
MVC-Wichita State
MWC-San Diego State
Northeast-Robert Morris
OVC- Belmont
Pac-12- Arizona
Patriot-Boston U
SEC-Florida
Southern-Davidson
Southland-Stephen . Austin
SWAC-Southern
Summit-North Dakota State
Sun Belt-Georgia State
WCC-Gonzaga
WAC-Utah Valley

17 extra teams

Big Ten (3): Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State
ACC (3): Duke, Syracuse, North Carolina
Big 12 (3): Oklahoma, Iowa State, Baylor
American Athletic(2): Louisville, Connecticut
Big East(2): Providence, Creighton
SEC (1): Kentucky
Pac-12 (1): UCLA
Mountain West (1): New Mexico
Atlantic 10 (1): VCU

then the remaining additional spots would go the best conferences with a cap of 4 per conference.

 

[Dave85]

Here's a dumb idea for the people who don't like it. And a great idea for the people who do like it.

What if the NCAA had summer D-League where players got paid. Have first team, second team, and third team from each conference play each other. It would generate a lot revenue through advertising and players can make some money while attending college.

 

[RandygoCuse]

One problem I see with the Champions League format is that teams could end up playing extra games against conference foes. I'm pretty sure the NCAA doesn't allow this in regular season tourneys. So, it may only be able to be done as group play.

 

[Alsacs]

One problem I see with the Champions League format is that teams could end up playing extra games against conference foes. I'm pretty sure the NCAA doesn't allow this in regular season tourneys. So, it may only be able to be done as group play.

NCAA has no problem at all with conference foes playing in tournaments. Oklahoma-West Virginia played in the All Spice Tournament in Orlando 2 years ago, Marquette played Creighton in Anaheim Classic last year.
These games were non-conference matchups and didn't count in the conference standings.

Indiana and Purdue several years ago played a non-conference game against each other because they were scheduled to only face 1 time during conference play.

This Champions League idea would be to create an additional trophy to compete for during the season, get some exciting regular season games, and reward teams that win.

 

[Cuse117]

Everyone is missing the obvious flaw here. Teams qualify for champions league based on what they did the year before, and unlike college basketball, the teams remain relatively similar from year to year. Especially in the smaller conferences... like imagine if murray state qualifies after they lose cannon, or morehead post fareed, or cornell after the really good team they had a few years ago. Thats why its a faulty idea.

 

[realorange]

I was thinking of a champions league like in golf. 40+ players from their school. Would be fun to watch Coleman, Moten and Pearl play "for real" again.

Have the EMT folks on hand if you do.

 

[Bornorange]

I am all for this if it means we never play Rutgers again.

 

[RandygoCuse]

NCAA has no problem at all with conference foes playing in tournaments. Oklahoma-West Virginia played in the All Spice Tournament in Orlando 2 years ago, Marquette played Creighton in Anaheim Classic last year.
These games were non-conference matchups and didn't count in the conference standings.

Indiana and Purdue several years ago played a non-conference game against each other because they were scheduled to only face 1 time during conference play.

This Champions League idea would be to create an additional trophy to compete for during the season, get some exciting regular season games, and reward teams that win.

Okay I thought that the Phil Knight tournament had to do their tournament with two separate bracket so they could have two teams from each of the major conferences

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Andy Glockner had the same idea last year.

 

[Alsacs]

Glockner's idea and mine are similar. I just like watching meaningful games and this type of competition would create good additional regular season games that actually mattered and would reward teams for success in previous seasons. Even if your team was senior laden it would help the program's recruiting if they made the champions league and would get them a home game or two against a team that would never play them at their gym.

 

[CuseIsInTheHouse]

Glockner's idea and mine are similar. I just like watching meaningful games and this type of competition would create good additional regular season games that actually mattered and would reward teams for success in previous seasons. Even if your team was senior laden it would help the program's recruiting if they made the champions league and would get them a home game or two against a team that would never play them at their gym.

Just tell the NCAA that they could make even more money off of college basketball and they'll listen to your idea.

 

[Indytarheel]

Yeah, it's called the Atlantic Coast Conference.