would people revise big east predictions up down or keep the same?

[Millhouse]

interesting thing to think about.

offense and defense are both better than I expected. that would revise big east prediction up.

Big East defenses are better than I expected and some Big East offenses are better than I expected. that knocks the prediction down

our special teams are a sh!tshow - down. will they keep being a sh!tshow? maybe not.

did minnesota give everyone the blueprint? or is the blueprint moot when alexander sits or moves inside.

gun to my head, i still think 2 big east wins. but i'm less confident about it. i think there are some crazy people on the board who saw no reason why the offensive production should go down. minnesota must've given them pause.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

Seriously. In what remaining game will SU be a favorite? Maybe the last game against Temple in the loser bowl. There is a real possibility that SU could have 2 or only 1 win at seasons end. Then what happens?

 

[Millhouse]

Seriously. In what remaining game will SU be a favorite? Maybe the last game against Temple in the loser bowl. There is a real possibility that SU could have 2 or only 1 win at seasons end. Then what happens?

uconn at home? if i could bet on that game being unwatchable, i would

 

[Chip]

Pitt looked like a good bet. But they're getting it together, and as bad as Sunseri looks sometimes, it never seems to be against Syracuse. That game is a pick em, do we get advantage points for it being at night at home?

Rutgers D is going to be tougher than the Minnesota D. And the Rutgers O is a lot better than I thought the Rutgers O ever could be. To me, that game went from a pick em to a long shot.

UConn, as you said, will be awful to watch. They should set the over/under at 13. But I think we do enough to win.

Will find out a lot more about Cincy this weekend when they host VT. Right now, doesn't look good.

USF suddenly looks better than it did.

Louisville will probably be a nooner, and we'll all snooze through it. Unless that's our one miracle game no one expected, hard to see a W right now.

Temple will be much more evenly matched than people care to admit.

I think we can still get 3 wins in this league. I'm battling history, which says 1, but can't go on that alone.

A lot of things need to start clicking into place, and I do think it's a possibility, to get us to 4-5 wins. A bowl game is still a real long shot.

 

[KaiserUEO]

interesting thing to think about.

offense and defense are both better than I expected. that would revise big east prediction up.

Big East defenses are better than I expected and some Big East offenses are better than I expected. that knocks the prediction down

our special teams are a sh!tshow - down. will they keep being a sh!tshow? maybe not.

did minnesota give everyone the blueprint? or is the blueprint moot when alexander sits or moves inside.

gun to my head, i still think 2 big east wins. but i'm less confident about it. i think there are some crazy people on the board who saw no reason why the offensive production should go down. minnesota must've given them pause.

dropping mine.

rutgers will out play SU.
storz will out coach SU
nsewfu will out pizazz SU.
cincy will out grind SU.
temple will likely out coach SU.

gotta beat pitt here, cause a lville W aint happening.

Oh Lord

 

[upperdeck]

if we play well pitt/uconn/temple are wins. still think USF/cinci are big unknowns..

rutgers has still shown nothing . the only solid win was Arkansas and they are a shambles.

Lou is vastly over rated.

really is the season over because of a bad TO game on the road during the biggest game they have had in years? if Reddish was really out best cover corner does he not make 1-2 of the pass plays change?

Missouri is getting beat up who knows how they will be at year end..

The Pitt game shows more than anything else so far. if hickey moving over really is a big upgrade it should help the power running game and the passing game.

 

[OrangeMojo]

really depends on what happens against Pitt with Pugh back

if they come out in two weeks with the season on the line at home an can't beat Pitt - then forget it, they might win 1-2 the rest of the way. But if they come out and give a solid, convincing performance, then I still could see them beating 4 BE teams the rest of the way.

of course if I had to revise right now I'd bet on them finding a way to lose against Pitt and then doing the same in most of the remaining games this year - there just always seems to be something they don't do. Right now I don't trust the staff - I need to be re-convinced. Hopefully it happens against the Panthers.

 

[Cuseman78]

The Big East is putrid, truly putrid. We still have a pretty decent chance to grab 3-5 wins in conference. Schools like NW and Minnesota would be towards the top of our league. If Marrone has any clue, he needs to be above .500 in the league this year. This year will tell me all i need to know about Marrone. So far, not so good.

 

[Millhouse]

The Big East is putrid, truly putrid. We still have a pretty decent chance to grab 3-5 wins in conference. Schools like NW and Minnesota would be towards the top of our league. If Marrone has any clue, he needs to be above .500 in the league this year. This year will tell me all i need to know about Marrone. So far, not so good.

why does everyone think the big east is putrid? rutgers, cincy louisville are good, i think. (rutgers might finally have a qb who can play) uconn's defense is pretty good. pitt and usf are more talented than us. i refuse to learn anything about temple.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I think, with us heading to the ACC, there's a certain incentive to make sure we beat Rutgers and UCONN. I believe we will, and had that in my preseason prog.

I also expect we'll beat Temple, because Bill Cosby's not walking through that door.

So, my predictions stand.

 

[KaiserUEO]

lets say the stars align and marrone gets them to 4-3 in conf, i suppose that would make me happy, but the fact that they wouldnt go bowling would suck beyond belief.

they absolutely had to have 1, if not both, of northwestern and minny and they screwed both up.

 

[Upstate]

Thing is, if SU comes out and plays well vs. pitt, Minnesota keeps winning, Northwestern keeps winning, USC keeps winning, Stony keeps winning, what does that tell us about our team? Maybe those were all matchups of good teams that forced eachother into playing sloppily, or both teams giving eachother their best shot? We won't really know until next Friday. There's a chance, albeit probably slimmer than most others, that NW and Minny are 8 to 10-win teams.

 

[Scooch]

In the preseason prediction thread I had us at 3-4 in the Big East, and 4-8 overall. So I'm perfect with my 1-3 prediction so far... which is just depressing.

I'm actually more pessimistic about us getting 3 wins in conference now than I was when I made my pessimistic preseason picks. Only opponent I look at right now and think we *should* beat them is UConn.

Guess I'd say I'll keep my prediction the same for now, but that's just me hoping this season doesn't turn into an abject disaster.

 

[Cuseman78]

why does everyone think the big east is putrid? rutgers, cincy louisville are good, i think. (rutgers might finally have a qb who can play) uconn's defense is pretty good. pitt and usf are more talented than us. i refuse to learn anything about temple.

The top of our league consists of teams at the bottom of the top 25 (and that's probably generous). That in and of itself is a sign of league weakness compared to the tops of other conferences. Our conference's biggest OOC win in conference was? Rutgers beating a 1-3 Arkansas team? Louisville beating Kentucky? Our conference has lost to FCS squads, MAC teams, etc. Its a putrid league. We have the horses to win some games. Hopefully the good OOC schedule has prepared us for conference play.

 

[Ozcuse]

The top of our league consists of teams at the bottom of the top 25 (and that's probably generous). That in and of itself is a sign of league weakness compared to the tops of other conferences. Our conference's biggest OOC win in conference was? Rutgers beating a 1-3 Arkansas team? Louisville beating Kentucky? Our conference has lost to FCS squads, MAC teams, etc. Its a putrid league. We have the horses to win some games. Hopefully the good OOC schedule has prepared us for conference play.

Lville beat UNC
Pitt beat VT
RU beat Arky
Uconn beat Maryland

 

[Cuseman78]

Lville beat UNC
Pitt beat VT
RU beat Arky
Uconn beat Maryland

I was giving just a couple of examples but yea, I guess Pitt's would be the most impressive. In any event, those are wins against unranked teams. Hardly an impressive list. Its a bad league (compared to the Big 5). The fact remains that a well-coached Syracuse team this year will win some games in this league.

 

[PoppyHart]

It's such a shame that all this conference re-alignment is occurring in the name of football. With WVU and TCU, who may not have left prior to the Pitt-SU departure, the conference would arguably be the 2nd best conference this year. At worst, the 4th best.

 

[WickedOrange]

We're going to unleash the Kraken on the Big East and I'm looking forward to it.

 

[SmilinBob]

I think this always been the way the big east has been, a team looks like crap for 1-3 weeks and then looks like they transformed into a very good team for 1-3 weeks and then return to doe. Pitt is and has been an enigma for years now. Rutgers scores 24 and 26 vs Tulane and Howard but puts 30+ on Arkansas? To me, this is the match up conference of conferences and is so incredibly difficult to predict. A bounce of the ball or bad call can determine too many games.

If the SU players and staff fix the weaknesses they will do quite well but if they struggle and have these..."Oh, no here we go again" type thinking that losers and quitters often do, then it will be a long year. I've seen the special teams improve a lot in coverage and they now have to fix their return game and I think they will. The new guys will be getting more reps in practice and that will help. We need a turnaround on the turnover game and if that happens I firmly believe this team will win their share of games.

 

[Millhouse]

The top of our league consists of teams at the bottom of the top 25 (and that's probably generous). That in and of itself is a sign of league weakness compared to the tops of other conferences. Our conference's biggest OOC win in conference was? Rutgers beating a 1-3 Arkansas team? Louisville beating Kentucky? Our conference has lost to FCS squads, MAC teams, etc. Its a putrid league. We have the horses to win some games. Hopefully the good OOC schedule has prepared us for conference play.

i guess if you define putrid as not having teams higher in the top 25, that's fine, but it's not really that relevant to whether we have a good conference record. we all expected to lose to louisville even if they're not ranked that high and rutgers is better than we thought

 

[ForeverOrange]

Maybe we should revisit this thread after we play Pitt, so we can see how much of a difference is made with Pugh and some of the others returning from injury...I had 5-7 and depending on how the team looks after Pitt, that may change to something worse.

 

[SU2NASA]

It's such a shame that all this conference re-alignment is occurring in the name of football. With WVU and TCU, who may not have left prior to the Pitt-SU departure, the conference would arguably be the 2nd best conference this year. At worst, the 4th best.

You're out of your mind. You'd have two above-average top-25 teams and then lots of meh to turrrble.

 

[PoppyHart]

You're out of your mind. You'd have two above-average top-25 teams and then lots of meh to turrrble.

Well, as of the moment, 4 of the 10 would be ranked. Are you overly impressed with the PAC-12, outside of Oregon and SC? How sweet is the Big 10 this year? The ACC looks awful this year.

 

[SU2NASA]

Well, as of the moment, 4 of the 10 would be ranked. Are you overly impressed with the PAC-12, outside of Oregon and SC? How sweet is the Big 10 this year? The ACC looks awful this year.

I think that top-to-bottom all of those conferences are better.

 

[Chip]

I think that top-to-bottom all of those conferences are better.

Regardless of how teams in the other conferences are performing in any given year, the perception that a Big East inclusive of WVU and TCU is better than the Big 10 and Pac 12 is an opinion that will never ever ever ever ever be shared by anyone outside the most die hard Big East fan.

Did I mention never and ever? I meant to.

Now that I'm so much further removed from Saturday's mess, I don't want actually want to revise any projections until I see how we do against Pitt with Pugh back in the lineup. He really should make a difference. Hopefully Reddish joins him, we'll need him against Pitt's WRs. I don't expect Flemming or Rene to have an impact, and unfortunately Kobena won't be back.