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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 1970194, member: 652"] By good I mean winning 8 games in a season. Gerg was never going to win 8 games in a year. With Shafer we were hoping for 7-6 years. That 2013 season was Syracuse maxing out under Shafer. We never beat a ranked team in those 3 years. Under Marrone we beat a ranked team every year and Dino has done it in his First year. I get the Shafer people love the guy and are now with Dino but I have no problem saying his hiring as HC was unmitigated wrong decision. We are paying for it now. Preseason rankings aren't going to happen unless we recruit really unexpectedly well. As preseason rankings are all talent and hype. By year 4 I expect we will be on an upswing a la wWashington State/Colorado. We weren't on an upswing with Shafer. We are mediocre in year 4 and the program is year behind in the rebuild. Dino has our highest recruiting class in 5 years [/QUOTE]