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Message: [QUOTE="DezisOrange, post: 19534, member: 656"] I hate ND with a passion, however I recognize the value. The ACC must be firm and adament, leave no wiggle room for any deals...all in, or out! Maybe make some concessions for their tv deal but outside of that, no concessions on anything else. If you want to park your other athletics somewhere while staying independant, I'm sure the BE,MAC,SunBelt,WAC or other conference like that will gladly make a deal. And we will all watch as your other sports die. Basically, after all these years of a mediocre to down right piss poor football program reveling in their sweet tv deal,independance,and sucking up the constant courting while acting like a cheap tease...they will have to join somewhere eventually. I'm reveling in their 'hurt' feelings and total bewilderment that someone would have the nerve not to look out for ND, as they consider their own future options. as for who else to join,...anyone that makes sense and can add value. [/QUOTE]