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Message: [QUOTE="All4SU, post: 3068843, member: 381"] I was never 100% onboard for taking wins away. Hell, the NCAA probably didn’t even need to be involved. (Just the police.) PSU won those games, as shameful as that is to admit. And that is the at the crux of my problem with the whole thing. PSU itself, administration, fans, etc, should have been ready to admit the horrendous environment ignored for so long. There should have been, embarrassment, shame, and sincere penitence on their part. Instead, they denied, squabbled over protecting the image of those responsible, and rallied to defend a dirty program. The fans should have self-imposed a boycott of the program. Instead they went 180 degrees the other way. It didn’t hurt PSU one bit. And it should have. [/QUOTE]