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Message: [QUOTE="KaiserUEO, post: 28728, member: 272"] exactly, 15 and 16 will not happen until ND goes out and gets married. as long as theyre single, there will be a spot for them at the acc, b1g and b12 table. b1g may even stay at 13, hell, they stayed at 11 for 20+ years. if nd does not choose the acc, then you will see the rut/storz package. UNLESS the b1g takes rut, which i still believe is more of a target for both the acc and b1g, than storz is. full disclosure: i realize that many of you either care not to believe this or dont have the ability to understand. [/QUOTE]